[rescue] SS10SX Value

[silcreval]

I have not had too many issues getting Sun's running on LCD monitors. I've found older HP monitors - the 'business' type often supported 1152x900, as well as some of the weird Mac modes.You often find HP panels in the rack mounted keyboard/display systems probably for that reason.

I have a rack of 10-15 systems, 68040Macs, PPC systems, Sparcstations, Ultras, a few Acorn machines and all work through the HP monitor.

THe one system I have a had trouble with is the Acorn RiscPC which insists in booting in 640x400 on occasion or sometimes some unusual EGA type mode that defeats most monitors. Getting that working is a story in itself.


> On 16 Jun 2026, at 21:22, Mouse via rescue <rescue at sunhelp.org> wrote:
> 
>>> But at worst you'd need to run a release NetBSD no longer officially
>>> supports.
>> Which brings you back to an older, unsupported (not current) OS...
> 
> To a point.  If you really want a bleeding-edge OS, it's a maybe.  10.1
> is listed as having been released for sparc (32-bit, that is); I don't
> know whether it actually works well or not - I don't run anything past
> 5.2, and even older on my SPARCs.
> 
>>> I don't think of 13W3-to-DE15 adapters as rare, [...]
>> I didn't say the adapters were rare, I said they were needed...
> 
> True enough.
> 
>> I'm stepping out on a limb here, but weren't Suns running unusual/uncommon-i$
> 
> Typically.
> 
> Back in the day, back when Suns were new, the paradigm was that the
> computer chose the video signal and the monitor was expected to sync to
> it or else put up some kind of "I can't grok this video signal"
> reaction, whether a synthetic display or an LED on the fron tpanel or
> whatever.
> 
> At some point, and my perception is that it happened at about the same
> point that flatscreens started to become popular, the peecee world
> changed its paradigm.  And, because of peecee dominance, everybody else
> semi-has to make do with peecee-corrupted monitors.  The paradigm now
> is that the monitor describes what video signals it can handle and the
> computer has to pick one of them and generate it.
> 
> Personally, this feels to me like a deliberate attempt to force-break
> old hardware, but I don't actually know the motivation behind it.  At
> any rate, old hardware on a new monitor is a struggle because each end
> thinks it gets to control the video signal details.  I had to hack
> around with various settings for hours to get my SS20+cg14 to generate
> a video signal that my 1920x1080 monitors could use - and the details
> depend on *which* 1920x1080 monitor I'm trying to use; the machine I
> have at ready hand has settings for an Asus VH236H and an LG 27EA33V,
> and they are notably different.  (New computer and old monitor is also
> a struggle, because each end is expecting the other to pick a mode.)
> 
> Almost every Sun framebuffer supported 1152x900.  Few modern monitors
> do.  Some can do 1024x768.  A small list can do 1280x1024.  Some can do
> 1920x1080, though on some of them (such as as 1M cg14) it's not
> actually usable because the video memory aliases.
> 
>> I notice folks are challenging my reasons, but no one has put forth
>> an alternate valuation...
> 
>> What do others think OPs system is worth?
> 
> I don't know.  I know what's it's worth *to me*, and that's relatively
> little; if someone brought it to me and I could somehow be convinced it
> worked, I likely be willing to pay as much as CAD 50.  I think it is
> probably worth more than that even in the hobby market.
> 
> /~\ The ASCII				  Mouse
> \ / Ribbon Campaign
> X  Against HTML		mouse at rodents-montreal.org
> / \ Email!	     7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39  4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B
> 
> _______________________________________________
> rescue list - http://sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue_sunhelp.org