[rescue] Various machines for sale

[Lionel Peterson]

Yes, that sounds right - there were special cards to drive them, as I recall - a lot of the imaging was done on the workstation, not the printer.

Thanks to both of you (Mike & mouse) for the correction.

Ken

> On Jan 8, 2025, at 23:28, Mike Spooner via rescue <rescue at sunhelp.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> The SPARCprinter and NeWSprinters from Sun were not SCSI, they used a hacked graphics/video interface and a wierd connector.
> 
> At least, according to the Sun documentation.
> 
> Regards,
> Mike
> 
> 
>> On 9 January 2025 03:29:04 GMT, Lionel Peterson via rescue <rescue at sunhelp.org> wrote:
>> SCSI scanners were all the rage in early Mac era as I recall - they used big "centronics" style printer cables.
>> 
>> Weren't early sun laser printers SCSI?
>> 
>> NVMe has a much, much greater speed than anything you can hang off a SAS/SCSI connector - PCIe Gen 5, 4 channel devices are on sale at Microcenter today...
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>>> On Jan 8, 2025, at 21:11, Joshua Boyd via rescue <rescue at sunhelp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 1/8/25 20:56, Dave McGuire via rescue wrote:
>>>> On January 8, 2025 8:49:52 PM John Francini <francini at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2025, at 16:34, Dave McGuire via rescue <rescue at sunhelp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> ?On 1/8/25 14:56, Mouse via rescue wrote:
>>>>>>>> As a technical geek, I prefer SCSI too.  I'm sad at how close to dead
>>>>>>>> it appears to be.
>>>>>>> Nah, SCSI is doing fine.  There have been many transports for SCSI, beyond parallel:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - SAS
>>>>>>> - USB
>>>>>>> - FireWire
>>>>>>> - FibreChannel
>>>>>>> - SSA (IBM)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It needn't be a parallel interface on a 50-pin IDC connector to be "SCSI".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And make no mistake, it needed to make the transition to serial, regardless of the specific transport mechanism.  There were skew problems in parallel SCSI in U320; scaling it past that and avoiding skew while still making cables simple and affordable just wasn't practical.
>>>>> No love for iSCSI? I worked for 10 years for a company (and later a DELL division): EqualLogic, which made iSCSI arrays that would cluster themselves and serve up data through multiple gig/10gig connections. Wonderful product.  Unfortunately iSCSI seems to have been a bit of a fad...
>>>> I knew I was forgetting one!  I always found iSCSI a bit odd, and perhaps overdesigned, but yes, it's absolutely SCSI too.
>>> 
>>> I feel like I hear more about iSCSI for VMs and netbooting these days than I do FC.  People are saying that iSCSI will be replaced with NVMeoF, but I don't know how long that will take.
>>> 
>>> For storage servers, I think there is a lot to be said for SAS SSDs over NVMe SSDs, and as such would think it reasonable to stick with iSCSI over NVMeoF.
>>> 
>>> Can't say that I've heard much about iSCSI (or SAS) scanners or printers though. ;)
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