[rescue] Various machines for sale

[Mike Spooner]

The SPARCprinter and NeWSprinters from Sun were not SCSI, they used a hacked graphics/video interface and a wierd connector.

At least, according to the Sun documentation.

Regards,
Mike

On 9 January 2025 03:29:04 GMT, Lionel Peterson via rescue <rescue at sunhelp.org> wrote:
>SCSI scanners were all the rage in early Mac era as I recall - they used big "centronics" style printer cables.
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>Weren't early sun laser printers SCSI?
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>NVMe has a much, much greater speed than anything you can hang off a SAS/SCSI connector - PCIe Gen 5, 4 channel devices are on sale at Microcenter today...
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>Ken
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>> On Jan 8, 2025, at 21:11, Joshua Boyd via rescue <rescue at sunhelp.org> wrote:
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>> On 1/8/25 20:56, Dave McGuire via rescue wrote:
>>> On January 8, 2025 8:49:52 PM John Francini <francini at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2025, at 16:34, Dave McGuire via rescue <rescue at sunhelp.org> wrote:
>>>>>> ?On 1/8/25 14:56, Mouse via rescue wrote:
>>>>>>> As a technical geek, I prefer SCSI too.  I'm sad at how close to dead
>>>>>>> it appears to be.
>>>>>> Nah, SCSI is doing fine.  There have been many transports for SCSI, beyond parallel:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - SAS
>>>>>> - USB
>>>>>> - FireWire
>>>>>> - FibreChannel
>>>>>> - SSA (IBM)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It needn't be a parallel interface on a 50-pin IDC connector to be "SCSI".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And make no mistake, it needed to make the transition to serial, regardless of the specific transport mechanism.  There were skew problems in parallel SCSI in U320; scaling it past that and avoiding skew while still making cables simple and affordable just wasn't practical.
>>>> No love for iSCSI? I worked for 10 years for a company (and later a DELL division): EqualLogic, which made iSCSI arrays that would cluster themselves and serve up data through multiple gig/10gig connections. Wonderful product.  Unfortunately iSCSI seems to have been a bit of a fad...
>>>   I knew I was forgetting one!  I always found iSCSI a bit odd, and perhaps overdesigned, but yes, it's absolutely SCSI too.
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>> I feel like I hear more about iSCSI for VMs and netbooting these days than I do FC.  People are saying that iSCSI will be replaced with NVMeoF, but I don't know how long that will take.
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>> For storage servers, I think there is a lot to be said for SAS SSDs over NVMe SSDs, and as such would think it reasonable to stick with iSCSI over NVMeoF.
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>> Can't say that I've heard much about iSCSI (or SAS) scanners or printers though. ;)
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