[rescue] Looking for SUN4U/SUN4V machines for a porting project
Freya Fractal
freya at highenergymagic.net
Sat May 31 17:25:05 EDT 2025
ah. update: that Solaris 10 image.... boots, yes. but if we're right it
is read-only and networking doesn't work. significantly less than ideal
On 5/31/2025 11:10, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote:
> It may sound heretical but you can use the QEMU emulator to emulate a
> Niagara CPU and then run your selected version of Solaris on that.
>
> See for instance the info about the Niagara CPU booting Solaris 10,
> bottom of the table:
>
> https://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/Platforms/SPARC
>
> I bet giving it 16GB RAM would be a way to test out your build
> process, provided you have a x64 system with 24-32GB.
>
> —Patrick
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 11:51 PM Freya Fractal
> <freya at highenergymagic.net> wrote:
>
> not as yet, no. we own highenergymagic.net
> <http://highenergymagic.net>, but we hadn't put up anything there
> about it as-yet, mostly because it's only now that we're really
> taking it seriously. It originally started as just us seeing if
> things would compile, and expanded massively... we later realised
> that we had broken the build in such a way that it is highly
> likely that many of the important packages would have undesired
> links to libraries (many of them 32-bit) in /opt/csw, which is
> suboptimal, as the intent of this package is that it is able to be
> installed on a clean Solaris 10u11 1/13 system. If proof is
> required of what we have created, we are able to provide the copy
> of FractalKit that we archived when we started the project over,
> but be aware that it's an organically expanding mess, none of the
> binaries and packages are signed and much of the porting was done
> in a very inexperienced manner. The current plan for FractalKit 25
> is to build everything 64-bit clean, with no links to OpenCSW
> libraries, with signed ELF binaries and each component offered as
> a signed SVR4 package datastream. extended goals are to distribute
> this as an ISO image that can be burnt to a DVD and can be
> installed alongside Solaris at the "install additional software"
> step of the installer, if we can figure out how the Solaris
> installer expects the DVD's hierarchy to be arranged.
>
>
> On 5/30/2025 21:43, Patrick Giagnocavo via rescue wrote:
>> I can't find anything about your project on the web; do you have
>> a website?
>>
>> On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 11:12 PM Freya Fractal via rescue
>> <rescue at sunhelp.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hiya,
>>
>>
>> Like the subject line says. We're looking to see if anyone in
>> NZ/Australia has a SPARC (sun4u/sun4v) machine they'd be
>> willing to
>> donate to the FractalKit project. FractalKit is a collection
>> of modern
>> packages for Solaris 10/11 on SPARC, covering web servers
>> (Nginx 1.28,
>> Apache 2.4.62), security (OpenSSL 3.4.0, GnuTLS 3.7), shell
>> utilities
>> (coreutils 9.5, bash 5.3, zsh 5.9), tcsh), programming
>> languages (PHP
>> 8.4.1, Ruby 3.2.3, Perl 5.40.0, python 3.13), libraries and
>> development
>> tools (too many to list), compilers (GCC 9.5.0 C, C++, fortran,
>> objective C), databases (SQLite 3.44.3, PostgreSQL 15.8,
>> MariaDB if we
>> can get it to build), editors (nano 8.4, vim 9.1), and
>> replacements for
>> network-facing services (primarily OpenSSH) that need to be kept
>> up-to-date, especially for those lacking MOS/Sunsolve access.
>> we're
>> currently rebuilding the entire project from scratch after
>> realising we
>> made some fatal errors, but we can send, on request, the full
>> previous
>> build of FractalKit as a demonstration. However, we've run
>> into a
>> problem: The only SPARC machine we have is a Sun Blade 150,
>> with a
>> 650MHz UltraSPARC-IIe, 768MiB of ram, and an IDE hard disk.
>> Does it
>> compile things? Yes. Does it also take in excess of 24 hours
>> to build
>> something like gcc? also yes. So we're looking for a bit of
>> SPARC kit,
>> preferably SUN4V, that one of yall lovely entities would be
>> willing to
>> send to us to help advance the project.
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>>
>> Freya
>>
>>
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