[rescue] Corrupted list messages

Jonathan Patschke jp at celestrion.net
Thu Sep 30 09:17:37 CDT 2021

On Thu, 30 Sep 2021, Mouse wrote:

> There is, I think, _nobody_ that I actually _need_ to correspond with
> at my home address.

The calculus is a bit different for me.  I participate in a fair number
of non-tech community organizations, and it's already enough of a hill
to climb explaining why my email address is ${group}@${me}.celestrion.net.
I'd much rather spamfight email (which I can do asynchronously) than ask
them to telephone me--which means spamfighting the VoIP spoofers in real

> Only if you have broken governance.  (Which we do - catastrophically
> broken - at the moment.)

Yep.  That happened the instant that network access became a "public
good" rather than agreements among peers.  Without an effective
"Internet Death Sentence," the cost-benefit-analysis for bad behavior
favors the sociopathic.

> I guess I'm readier than most to tell people, in so many words if
> necessary, "you picked a spamhaus as a provider, switch providers if
> you want to mail me".

That's exactly it.  There may come a day where I tell people to
telephone me or write a letter or visit rather than email, but email is
still function enough to be worth the trouble incurred in dealing with
people who don't care.

> She gets too much email to handle it all - and taking something like
> that on is another price I'm not willing to pay.

I empathize with that.  This list is one of the few places where I use
my "real" email address (just because of how long I've been on here);
most of my email communications go through aliases so that things are
easier to auto-filter by project.  It started as a way to defend against
address harvesting, but has also been monumentally informative in
letting me know which companies I deal with have unintentional data
security problems.

Jonathan Patschke
Austin, TX

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