[rescue] Corrupted list messages
mouse at Rodents-Montreal.ORG
Thu Sep 30 08:30:19 CDT 2021
> I would suggest that stripping the 8th bit was a not totally
> unreasonable measure in olden days but it may be worth re-considering
> given that it isn't entirely standards complient.
There are standards it doesn't comply with, yes. But nothing says that
any mailserver has to comply with all potentially-applicable standards,
if it's willing to take the potential interoperability hit.
Given the purpose of this list, I think it's reasonable for it to stick
to ASCII. I would, though, rather see it reject non-ASCII mail than
just smash the high bits - and if it does just smash high bits, it
_really_ should to do something better than send out mail full of ^S
and ^Y mislabeled as being US-ASCII.
Of course, there's also the question of to what extent the mailer
and/or the list are being maintained. They are clearly being
maintained _somewhat_, but I don't know whether there are any brain
cycles available for changes. I'd rather have it stay as it is than
have someone with too few spare cycles trying to "fix" it.
> But I'll admit that I'm in general opposed to messing with message
Me too, possibly excepting things such as MIME recoding from base64 to
8bit (something that happens not infrequently to my incoming mail
stream, and I actually rather like that particular change).
> As email has become more important, PHBs are paying more attention to
> it and it's very often a case of "Don't bore me with all that
> technical shit; just do it." despite the technical shit making it all
> work in the first place.
It then becomes a question of what you interpret "just do it" as being
a mandate for. I would take it as a mandate to bring the software in
question up to spec, replacing it if necessary.
> I once had someone complain about my in-line replies and trying to
> explain how experienced he was with email; he went silent when I
> pointed out that I'd been doing email since before he was born :)
It _is_ a hard argument to counter. :-)
I also have never had anyone provide a counter-argument to the points I
raise in my blah post on untrimmed top-posting (see
more precisely the text file linked to from there.
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