[rescue] tired of current GUIs / a rant about the daily garbage we put up with

John Floren john at jfloren.net
Wed Oct 23 16:29:04 CDT 2019

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 3:22 PM Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
> In article <4a49dc04054d06c4fc72ce1a16631acd1129fce8.camel at agj.net>,
>     Stefan Skoglund <stefan.skoglund at agj.net> writes:
> > That configure and autotool is a hard doing properly , that i can agree
> > with but the current replacement in the linux world seems to be some
> > version of a python tool [...]
> The world has moved to CMake, some time ago.  I used to work with John
> Calcote, who wrote the only book that exists on autoconf.  There is a
> paragraph in the introduction section of the book on CMake that says
> why CMake is superior to autoconf/autotools.  I asked John's opinion
> of what they wrote in the CMake book and he agreed.  So yeah,
> autoconf/autotools is an abomination and doesn't work at all on a
> system that isn't unix-like, e.g. Windows, VMS, etc.  CMake is
> superior and uses a completely different approach from autotools which
> avoids all the silliness described in that article (which was a nice
> read, thanks whoever shared that link :).

I have worked with CMake and found it almost unusable, the sort of
over-complicated thing a C++ programmer would be so pleased with--he's
done something *clever*, and in only 50,000 lines of code! Give me a
good old-fashioned Makefile any day.


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