[rescue] Arduino Rants WAS: a thread I cared about; Re: Tektronix 4051 software?

Ian Finder ian.finder at gmail.com
Fri Jul 22 11:43:41 CDT 2016

Arduino is an overloaded term.

I personally like being able to walk into a coffee shop near me and buy an
"Arduino Due" for $30 which is actually just an ATMEL SAM ARM Cortex M3
development board.

I don't have to use Arduino's WIRING sdk. Even from within their tools, I
can include real C & C++ files- it's all just arm-gcc on the backend.

Or I can do away with their crappy IDE entirely and use arm-gcc and
OpenOCD. Would you flunk me in your class for doing that?

Arduino is not necessarily an SDK- it's also a supported hardware class.I
don't miss having to pay $200 for shitty arm development boards.

- I

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Jonathan Patschke <jp at celestrion.net>

> On Fri, 22 Jul 2016, John Hudak wrote:
> I personally don't like the abstraction they used both for hardware
>> devices and the language interface.
> Arduino is Visual BASIC for hardware.
> And, like VB, it has a great place in prototyping, being a tool for
> nonprofessionals, and in getting one's feet wet, but it's definitely the
> shallow end of the pool.
> I teach embedded systems programming at the college level - if anyone uses
>> an arduino for a project I automatically flunk them...and they know that
>> going in.
> Well yeah.  You wouldn't allow a model-based code generator (unless the
> student wrote it), either.
> This isn't the place to rant about arduino...sorry about the flame....
> Nah, we get it.  Dinking with Arduino has become "hardware engineering" in
> pop culture like playing with HTML became "programming" in pop culture 20
> years ago.  Participation trophies are irksome like that.
> --
> Jonathan Patschke
> Austin, TX
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