[rescue] Linux wet paint, was Re: Spark10 CPU question (must fix - SPARC damnit :-) )

Nick B nick at pelagiris.org
Fri Dec 23 10:37:37 CST 2016

Every time I read that list of "Debunked" "myths" I'm more convinced that
systemd should be dumped at the first available chance.  It reminds me of
nothing more than DJB's twisted nightmare of an ecosystem, where debugging
a simple problem will take all week.  My last fight was systemd and limits
- for anyone who faces this in the future the way you modify limits for
systemd is not /etc/security/limits.conf like on every other linux system,
and is instead /etc/systemd/system/servicename.service.d/limits.conf, with
poorly documented syntax.  Good luck figuring that out on your own.

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 23 December 2016 at 11:06, Toby Thain <toby at telegraphics.com.au> wrote:
> > On 2016-12-22 4:27 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
> >>
> >> ...
> >> It *must* by simple deductive logic have strong arguments going for it
> >> or not everyone would be leaping aboard the boat.
> >>
> >
> > You can't be serious. Look around you.
> I am serious. List the major distros _not_ adopting systemd.
> There's, er, well, er, there's Slackware, and, um, PCLinuxOS,
> TinyCore, Slitaz...
> Seriously. Only tiny niche players are not going systemd.
> http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
> Red Hat, Debian, SUSE, Ubuntu. Anyone with user bases in the 6-7
> digits is using systemd.
> I am hearing a lot of FUD. It's not monolithic, it can log to anything
> you want, etc.
> Its creator debunked a lot of the FUD but nobody cares.
> http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html
> I think it's a good thing. If it gets people to move to *BSD, great.
> That's more life in the *BSD communities, it's more investment, more
> development, etc. If it causes more diversity, I am all for it. If
> something that makes my computer boot faster improves OS diversity,
> double win!
> I don't interact with init systems directly. Haven't done since the
> 1980s. I never understood the baroque nightmare of the SysV init. BSD
> init I could work with.
> Now it's all gone? Suits me fine.
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