[rescue] Solaris licensing

hike mh1272 at gmail.com
Thu Sep 4 15:58:33 CDT 2014

Oracle is trying to reap the most profits that they can from their purchase
of Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Oracle is using the same tactics and strategies that they use with the
Oracle relational database.
Oracle's customers are corporations, educational systems, government.
Oracle could care less about the hobbyist community--hobbyist don't add to
Oracle's bottom line.  A hobbyist employee won't sway a corporation to
Oracle.  Oracle doesn't need the grunts.

When Scott McNealy failed to kill Sun Microsystems, Inc., Larry Ellison
stepped in to finish the job.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Phil Stracchino <phils at caerllewys.net>

> On 09/04/14 10:46, Andrew Gaylard wrote:
> > On 08/31/14 17:07, John Carr wrote:
> >> Honestly, Oracle has made having Sun boxes not-fun since I can't get a
> hobbyist license or
> >> patches for Solaris. I think that for now, I'll pass.
> > Are you sure?  I'm looking at this link (which Google provided, so I'm
> > not 100% sure that it applies to S10 and /or S11):
> >
> >
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/licenses/solaris-cluster-express-license-167852.html
> >
> > which says
> >
> >     /*LICENSE RIGHTS */
> >     /Except for any included software package or file that is licensed
> >     to you by Oracle under different license terms, we grant you a
> >     perpetual (unless terminated as provided in this agreement),
> >     nonexclusive, nontransferable, limited License to use the Programs
> >     only for the purpose of developing, testing, prototyping and
> >     demonstrating your applications, and not for any other purpose. If
> >     You are an educational institution vested with the power to confer
> >     official high school, associate, bachelor, master and/or doctorate
> >     degrees, or local equivalent, ("Degree(s)"), You may also use the
> >     Programs as part of Your educational curriculum for students
> >     enrolled in Your Degree program(s) solely as required for the
> >     conferral of such Degree (collectively "Educational Use")./
> >
> > ...which says that "/developing, testing, prototyping and demonstrating
> > your applications/" is fine with them.  Forever ("/perpetual/").  It's
> > also pretty reasonable for use by educational institutions.
> Which seems to me to say you can use it for development/testing/demo, or
> for education if you're an accredited educational estalishment, but
> makes no mention whatsoever of general hobbyist use.
> I'm really not certain whether Oracle is actively trying to kill off
> Solaris, or simply doesn't realize that that's what they're doing.  Or
> that if they manage to kill off Solaris as an OS, nobody is going to buy
> their hardware to run it on.
> --
>   Phil Stracchino
>   Babylon Communications
>   phils at caerllewys.net
>   phil at co.ordinate.org
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