[rescue] Help needed with Sun V65x

Patrick Giagnocavo patrick at zill.net
Tue Feb 18 20:42:52 CST 2014


Depends on which generation of core you want to talk about - I think the Tualatin Celerons were based on PIII's that didn't meet spec?



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From: "Lionel Peterson" <lionel4287 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [rescue] Help needed with Sun V65x

I think there was a performance gap that tilted towards the UltraSPARC IIe
(the 2000-era Celerons really inhaled deeply)...

What was a mainstream desktop processor selling for at the time? That would be
a fairer comparison I suspect. Were Celerons P3-based in 2000?


> On Feb 18, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Andrew Jones <andrew at jones.ec> wrote:
>> On 02/18/2014 05:39 PM, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote:
>> Actually to compete, they would have to change the:
>> Ethernet from 100 to gigabit
>> Ide to sata, or at least to handle greater than 137gb
>> Also. So that would be a board revision, possibly a few chips swapped.
> The core problem is that SPARCs were, and are, expensive.  I dug up a couple
press releases with pricing from 2000.
> Intel Celeron
> 766 MHz: $170
> 733 MHz: $112
> UltraSPARC IIe
> 500 MHz: $357
> 400 MHz: $230
> This is probably the closest that SPARC and x86 ever got in price.
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