[rescue] NeXTSTEP or OPENSTEP?

Liam Proven lproven at gmail.com
Mon Aug 11 17:12:41 CDT 2014

On 12 August 2014 00:04, Carl R. Friend <crfriend at rcn.com> wrote:
>    On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Liam Proven wrote:
>    Hmmm.  "Drama queen".  I'll have to say that's the first time I've
> been called that.


>    What they forgot, however, is that certain classes of people have
> very specific needs when it comes to a computer.  Programmers and
> writers need -- absolutely -- real keyboards; publishers require
> screens that realistically render what the finished print will look
> like; photographers who work in the digital realm need large very
> precise monitors.  These are the "content producers"; everybody
> else, unless he's dual-role, is a consumer.

You continue to doggedly miss my point.

We are not talking about Windows RT here. We are talking about Windows
8.x, a PC OS that runs on generic PC hardware and which has the exact
same desktop interface it has had since 1995, with a different-looking
Start menu -- as the Win7 one is different from the Vista one, Vista's
from XP's, XP's from Win2K which was different from NT4's which was
different from Win95's.

The desktop is still there. Exactly as it was. Notification area. Menu
bars. Close/maximise/minimize buttons. Alt-F, O to open a file, Ctrl-P
to print it.

It is all still there. Nothing removed, nothing disabled. In W8.1 you
can even right-click the Start button -- yes it has a Start button --
and get the Control Panel, system management etc. stuff just as

I am a writer myself. I make my living from bashing out words.

Windows 8.x is 100% as good at that as any previous version. It's a
bit faster and sleeker than Win7, actually.

And you know what? An increasing number of the writers I know are
using iPads with keyboard-cases and so on now, which gives the lie to
your comment about:

>  Tablets and whatnot
> work great for consumers -- and are where touch-enabled idioms are
> not just OK, they're actually a very good idea; however, for the
> producer, the touch idiom is not just an unnecessary distraction
> it's a detriment to their work, and I think that's where the largest
> complaint sector about the default W8 interface comes from.

Win8 is Win7 with a full-screen Start menu, *and nothing more*. It can
do everything Win7 can and more besides. All this guff about it not
being suitable for content-creators and power users and sysadmins is
100% double-hopped horseshit: it can do absolutely everything all its
predecessors could.

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