From jdboyd at jdboyd.net  Fri Jan  1 20:46:56 2010
From: jdboyd at jdboyd.net (Joshua Boyd)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 21:46:56 -0500
Subject: [rescue] GigE on Solaris/SPARC
Message-ID: <20100102024656.GA22474@jd-colo.catpro>

Does anyone know if Broadcom BCM5703 cards work under Solaris SPARC?  I
see that Sun used this chip in one of their older AMD64 machines, but I
can't find references to using it in a sparc machine, and some knowledge
might be nice before I take one of my Suns offline to pop it in, if possible.

From leaknoil at comcast.net  Mon Jan  4 17:48:12 2010
From: leaknoil at comcast.net (leaknoil)
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:48:12 -0800
Subject: [rescue] Keyboard cable and mouse for DEC alpha AXP3000 needed
In-Reply-To: <20090609184638.GH1904@mrbill.net>
References: <20090609184638.GH1904@mrbill.net>
Message-ID: <4B427E3C.1050906@comcast.net>

I have the tower version of the DEC AXP3000 alpha box and I want to run 
it as an OpenVMS server. Unfortunately, I didn't realize you could run 
it without the keyboard and mouse attached.  I gave away my keyboard 
cable and mouse to someone thinking I wouldn't need it. Turns out I do. 
Doesn't get past self tests without it attached.

Anyone have a spare set they can part with ? I have plenty of the 
keyboards but, not that cable with the db15 on one end and the plastic 
block where you plug in the keyboard and mouse on the other. I probably 
don't even need a mouse but, I'm not sure.

Anyone know a secret way to boot these without a keyboard ? Everything I 
found online seems to say it can't be done.

Thanks,
Pete

From leaknoil at comcast.net  Mon Jan  4 17:50:33 2010
From: leaknoil at comcast.net (leaknoil)
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:50:33 -0800
Subject: [rescue] Keyboard cable and mouse for DEC alpha AXP3000 needed
In-Reply-To: <4B427E3C.1050906@comcast.net>
References: <20090609184638.GH1904@mrbill.net> <4B427E3C.1050906@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4B427EC9.6060704@comcast.net>

Sorry, that should be *couldn't*


> I didn't realize you could run it without the keyboard and mouse 
> attached. 

From slawmaster at gmail.com  Mon Jan  4 17:58:22 2010
From: slawmaster at gmail.com (John Floren)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 18:58:22 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Keyboard cable and mouse for DEC alpha AXP3000 needed
In-Reply-To: <4B427E3C.1050906@comcast.net>
References: <20090609184638.GH1904@mrbill.net> <4B427E3C.1050906@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <7d3530221001041558g6b35977bk1a7e1cf73e292311@mail.gmail.com>

Have you tried connecting it to a serial terminal? I think I had a
similar problem with my Alphastation when I tried connecting it to a
VGA monitor sans keyboard, but when I plugged in the VT220 it worked
like a charm.

John

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 6:48 PM, leaknoil <leaknoil at comcast.net> wrote:
> I have the tower version of the DEC AXP3000 alpha box and I want to run it
> as an OpenVMS server. Unfortunately, I didn't realize you could run it
> without the keyboard and mouse attached. B I gave away my keyboard cable
and
> mouse to someone thinking I wouldn't need it. Turns out I do. Doesn't get
> past self tests without it attached.
>
> Anyone have a spare set they can part with ? I have plenty of the keyboards
> but, not that cable with the db15 on one end and the plastic block where
you
> plug in the keyboard and mouse on the other. I probably don't even need a
> mouse but, I'm not sure.
>
> Anyone know a secret way to boot these without a keyboard ? Everything I
> found online seems to say it can't be done.
>
> Thanks,
> Pete
> _______________________________________________
> rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue
>



--
"Object-oriented design is the roman numerals of computing" -- Rob Pike

From leaknoil at comcast.net  Mon Jan  4 18:07:57 2010
From: leaknoil at comcast.net (leaknoil)
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:07:57 -0800
Subject: [rescue] Keyboard cable and mouse for DEC alpha AXP3000 needed
In-Reply-To: <7d3530221001041558g6b35977bk1a7e1cf73e292311@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090609184638.GH1904@mrbill.net> <4B427E3C.1050906@comcast.net>
	<7d3530221001041558g6b35977bk1a7e1cf73e292311@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B4282DD.9020107@comcast.net>

That was my thought too when I gave away my cable set.  Nothing comes 
out the serial port on these. I'm not sure they were ever intended to be 
used headless. Not even a serial console switch like on the VAXStations. 
There is a prom setting for console  but, I think it only comes into 
play after all the self tests are passed. You can run these  on a serial 
console but, you still need a keyboard attached to get that far. That's 
my take on what info is out there anyway.

John Floren wrote:
> Have you tried connecting it to a serial terminal? I think I had a
> similar problem with my Alphastation when I tried connecting it to a
> VGA monitor sans keyboard, but when I plugged in the VT220 it worked
> like a charm.

From knowak1 at cox.net  Tue Jan  5 13:09:52 2010
From: knowak1 at cox.net (Kurt Nowak)
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:09:52 -0800
Subject: [rescue] apollo computers
In-Reply-To: <4B4282DD.9020107@comcast.net>
References: <20090609184638.GH1904@mrbill.net> <4B427E3C.1050906@comcast.net>
	<7d3530221001041558g6b35977bk1a7e1cf73e292311@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B4282DD.9020107@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4B438E80.7080606@cox.net>

Hi all,

I have lots of Apollo DN hardware that i would like to get rid of. 
DN3500s mainly...lots of CPUs, keyboards, monitors, cables, manuals. My 
dad amassed this stuff over the years and has been collecting dust. If 
anyone is interested in this stuff get in contact with me. I am in San 
Diego, CA.

Kurt

From ian.finder at gmail.com  Tue Jan  5 23:30:12 2010
From: ian.finder at gmail.com (Ian Finder)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 21:30:12 -0800
Subject: [rescue] apollo computers
In-Reply-To: <4B438E80.7080606@cox.net>
References: <20090609184638.GH1904@mrbill.net> <4B427E3C.1050906@comcast.net>
	<7d3530221001041558g6b35977bk1a7e1cf73e292311@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B4282DD.9020107@comcast.net> <4B438E80.7080606@cox.net>
Message-ID: <591CE800-1227-44C9-AB49-C21827C44421@gmail.com>

Are you willing to ship anything (obviously at the recipient's expense)?

Thanks,

---
Ian Finder
ian.finder at gmail.com

Sent via mobile.

On Jan 5, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Kurt Nowak <knowak1 at cox.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have lots of Apollo DN hardware that i would like to get rid of.  
> DN3500s mainly...lots of CPUs, keyboards, monitors, cables, manuals.  
> My dad amassed this stuff over the years and has been collecting  
> dust. If anyone is interested in this stuff get in contact with me.  
> I am in San Diego, CA.
>
> Kurt
> _______________________________________________
> rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue

From spedraja at gmail.com  Wed Jan  6 10:33:29 2010
From: spedraja at gmail.com (SPC)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 17:33:29 +0100
Subject: [rescue] apollo computers
In-Reply-To: <4B438E80.7080606@cox.net>
References: <20090609184638.GH1904@mrbill.net> <4B427E3C.1050906@comcast.net> 
	<7d3530221001041558g6b35977bk1a7e1cf73e292311@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4B4282DD.9020107@comcast.net> <4B438E80.7080606@cox.net>
Message-ID: <f7f1e0d31001060833x77518f70g1904cfca126ec97b@mail.gmail.com>

Same question about shipment, but for Europe.

Sergio

2010/1/5 Kurt Nowak <knowak1 at cox.net>

> Hi all,
>
> I have lots of Apollo DN hardware that i would like to get rid of. DN3500s
> mainly...lots of CPUs, keyboards, monitors, cables, manuals. My dad amassed
> this stuff over the years and has been collecting dust. If anyone is
> interested in this stuff get in contact with me. I am in San Diego, CA.
>
> Kurt
> _______________________________________________
> rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue

From slawmaster at gmail.com  Wed Jan  6 14:52:51 2010
From: slawmaster at gmail.com (John Floren)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 15:52:51 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Nicolet 660 in Rochester
Message-ID: <7d3530221001061252r5d74c12em88386d3c21de3dca@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings, everyone!

About a year ago, Ken Marshall offered me a Nicolet 660 scientific
computer. Unfortunately, I've been simply unable to take it as I lack
the space or time to really do it justice--I'm in the middle of a
Master's degree in Computer Engineering.

There's not a lot of info available on the 660, and I don't have the
brochures handy at this second, but from memory it is a 20-bit
scientific computer that came out in the mid 80s. It is a hip-high
(3'?) cabinet that acts like a mini rack (units slide in and out on
rails). The disk unit sits on top and has two SCSI 3.5" floppy drives
and an SMD hard disk. Under that is the CPU unit, which has (as I
recall) a start/stop button, a program1 button, a program2 button, and
a power switch. There is a VGA monitor
and an AT keyboard to go with it, both Nicolet branded.

The OS is called NICOS and apparently is FORTH-based. It also includes
floppies for FORTRAN, PASCAL, and BASIC. There is also a lot of
software for data collection and processing, as this was once hooked
up to lab equipment.

Full disclosure: the SMD hard drive seems to be kind of flaky. Some
times it boots, some times it doesn't. Someone more skilled and/or
resourceful than me should be able to either replace the disk or fake
one with a newer storage medium.

I believe there may also be a spectrometer designed to be used with
the Nicolet, if you have the space (and if it's actually up for
grabs).

This computer is really kind of beautiful, it's a unique design and
there don't seem to be very many of these out there. I couldn't google
up any images, and the server that used to store the pictures we took
is down at the moment, but if you want to see it send me an email and
I'll send pics.

It is located in Rochester, NY. Shipping is not feasible unless you're
willing to arrange for someone to come in and palletize the system.


John
-- 
"Object-oriented design is the roman numerals of computing" -- Rob Pike

From John.Lengeling at radisys.com  Wed Jan  6 15:47:09 2010
From: John.Lengeling at radisys.com (John Lengeling)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 13:47:09 -0800
Subject: [rescue] Nicolet 660 in Rochester
In-Reply-To: <7d3530221001061252r5d74c12em88386d3c21de3dca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7d3530221001061252r5d74c12em88386d3c21de3dca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AB9E4E18EAEB9A4E8869F48CB6FE116902245B64@OREXCHANGE01.radisys.com>

> Full disclosure: the SMD hard drive seems to be kind of flaky. Some
> times it boots, some times it doesn't. Someone more skilled and/or
> resourceful than me should be able to either replace the disk or fake
> one with a newer storage medium.

Good to see the SMD drives in 2010 are just as flaky as they were in the
1980s!  After 25 years, I still hate SMD drives... Although I am kind of
pineing for the sound of loading a tape in a Cipher 9 track tape
drive...

johnl

From saquinn624 at aol.com  Thu Jan  7 19:19:09 2010
From: saquinn624 at aol.com (saquinn624 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:19:09 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Keyboard cable and mouse for DEC alpha AXP3000 needed
Message-ID: <8CC5E17B6ACADEA-6078-1CEF@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com>

 I don't think you need to mess with the SRM console variable on the 3k series
- I'm 98% sure it has a "S3" VAX-style alternate console switch somewhere in
there. Check on the back panel near the serial ports/network port.

If not I suspect that you may have sent that cable to me. I'll check on my
3k300X to see how it works this weekend and if necessary I can send the cable
back.

From jkunz at unixag-kl.fh-kl.de  Fri Jan  8 10:32:14 2010
From: jkunz at unixag-kl.fh-kl.de (Jochen Kunz)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 17:32:14 +0100
Subject: [rescue] Keyboard cable and mouse for DEC alpha AXP3000 needed
In-Reply-To: <4B4282DD.9020107@comcast.net>
References: <20090609184638.GH1904@mrbill.net> <4B427E3C.1050906@comcast.net>
	<7d3530221001041558g6b35977bk1a7e1cf73e292311@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B4282DD.9020107@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20100108173214.12deaf9b.jkunz@unixag-kl.fh-kl.de>

On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:07:57 -0800
leaknoil <leaknoil at comcast.net> wrote:

> Nothing comes
> out the serial port on these. I'm not sure they were ever intended to be
> used headless. Not even a serial console switch like on the VAXStations.
My DEC3000-600 has a "S3" console switch beside the 8 POST LEDs at the
back of the machine. It is definately possible to use a DEC3000 with
serial console. I did it in the past.
--


tsch|_,
       Jochen

Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/

From mrbill at mrbill.net  Sun Jan 10 11:05:32 2010
From: mrbill at mrbill.net (Bill Bradford)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:05:32 -0600
Subject: [rescue] FS: FriendlyARM Mini2440 dev kit + enclosure
Message-ID: <20100110170532.GN5180@mrbill.net>

Full writeup and pictures here:

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=241404508459

Will sell for $125 shipped.

Bill

-- 
Bill Bradford 
Houston, Texas

From mj at mjturner.net  Sun Jan 10 11:20:06 2010
From: mj at mjturner.net (Michael-John Turner)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:20:06 +0000
Subject: [rescue] FS: FriendlyARM Mini2440 dev kit + enclosure
In-Reply-To: <20100110170532.GN5180@mrbill.net>
References: <20100110170532.GN5180@mrbill.net>
Message-ID: <20100110172006.GB2829@aurora.pimp.org.za>

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:05:32AM -0600, Bill Bradford wrote:
> Full writeup and pictures here:

As a matter of interest, why are you selling? Have been eyeing these for a
while and am quite keen on getting one to play with.

-mj
-- 
 Michael-John Turner
 mj at mjturner.net      <>     http://mjturner.net/

From newell at cei.net  Sun Jan 10 11:43:02 2010
From: newell at cei.net (Scott Newell)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:43:02 -0600
Subject: [rescue] FS: FriendlyARM Mini2440 dev kit + enclosure
In-Reply-To: <20100110170532.GN5180@mrbill.net>
References: <20100110170532.GN5180@mrbill.net>
Message-ID: <201001101743.o0AHh9dJ026366@host22.the-web-host.com>

At 11:05 AM 1/10/2010, Bill Bradford wrote:
>Full writeup and pictures here:
>
>http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=241404508459
>
>Will sell for $125 shipped.

Is this deal open to anyone, or only those on facebook?

-- 
newell  N5TNL 

From mrbill at mrbill.net  Sun Jan 10 17:01:32 2010
From: mrbill at mrbill.net (Bill Bradford)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:01:32 -0600
Subject: [rescue] FS: FriendlyARM Mini2440 dev kit + enclosure
In-Reply-To: <20100110172006.GB2829@aurora.pimp.org.za>
References: <20100110170532.GN5180@mrbill.net>
	<20100110172006.GB2829@aurora.pimp.org.za>
Message-ID: <20100110230132.GU5180@mrbill.net>

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 05:20:06PM +0000, Michael-John Turner wrote:
> As a matter of interest, why are you selling? Have been eyeing these for a
> while and am quite keen on getting one to play with.

Just overkill for the kind of stuff I want to do.  It's a really nice board
and setup; I just don't need a touchscreen.

Bill

-- 
Bill Bradford 
Houston, Texas

From mrbill at mrbill.net  Sun Jan 10 17:01:45 2010
From: mrbill at mrbill.net (Bill Bradford)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:01:45 -0600
Subject: [rescue] FS: FriendlyARM Mini2440 dev kit + enclosure
In-Reply-To: <20100110170532.GN5180@mrbill.net>
References: <20100110170532.GN5180@mrbill.net>
Message-ID: <20100110230145.GV5180@mrbill.net>

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:05:32AM -0600, Bill Bradford wrote:
> Full writeup and pictures here:
> http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=241404508459
> Will sell for $125 shipped.

Sold.

Bill

-- 
Bill Bradford 
Houston, Texas

From mrbill at mrbill.net  Sun Jan 10 17:02:03 2010
From: mrbill at mrbill.net (Bill Bradford)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:02:03 -0600
Subject: [rescue] FS: FriendlyARM Mini2440 dev kit + enclosure
In-Reply-To: <201001101743.o0AHh9dJ026366@host22.the-web-host.com>
References: <20100110170532.GN5180@mrbill.net>
	<201001101743.o0AHh9dJ026366@host22.the-web-host.com>
Message-ID: <20100110230203.GW5180@mrbill.net>

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:43:02AM -0600, Scott Newell wrote:
> At 11:05 AM 1/10/2010, Bill Bradford wrote:
> >Full writeup and pictures here:
> >http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=241404508459
> >Will sell for $125 shipped.
> 
> Is this deal open to anyone, or only those on facebook?

Sorry, I thought that page was open to everyone.  It's since sold.

Bill

-- 
Bill Bradford 
Houston, Texas

From newell at cei.net  Sun Jan 10 17:22:27 2010
From: newell at cei.net (Scott Newell)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:22:27 -0600
Subject: [rescue] FS: FriendlyARM Mini2440 dev kit + enclosure
In-Reply-To: <20100110230203.GW5180@mrbill.net>
References: <20100110170532.GN5180@mrbill.net>
	<201001101743.o0AHh9dJ026366@host22.the-web-host.com>
	<20100110230203.GW5180@mrbill.net>
Message-ID: <201001102322.o0ANMYXp031459@host22.the-web-host.com>

At 05:02 PM 1/10/2010, Bill Bradford wrote:
>On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:43:02AM -0600, Scott Newell wrote:
> > At 11:05 AM 1/10/2010, Bill Bradford wrote:
> > >Full writeup and pictures here:
> > >http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=241404508459
> > >Will sell for $125 shipped.
> >
> > Is this deal open to anyone, or only those on facebook?
>
>Sorry, I thought that page was open to everyone.  It's since sold.

No big deal; I'm starting to prefer the ARM Cortex cores over the 
older ones anyway.

-- 
newell 

From sun.mail.list47 at oryx.cc  Wed Jan 13 13:08:33 2010
From: sun.mail.list47 at oryx.cc (Jerry K)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:08:33 -0600
Subject: [rescue] eSATA or firewire in Solaris Sparc system
Message-ID: <4B4E1A31.8070508@oryx.cc>

We had a discussion a while back, which, among other things, discussed 
an eSATA controller for Solaris on Sparc.  Part of the discussion is 
pasted below.

I am currently in a place at $HOME where I would like to be able to add 
an eSATA card to an older Sparc system for low cost storage.  I just 
went and Yahoo'ed the Silicon Image Sil3112 & 3114 controllers below, 
and from what I can tell from the images, these controllers would be for 
internal storage, not external storage.

Is anyone on the list using these?  If so, for external storage?

If this isn't possible, my second choice will be to look for a 
compatible IEEE1394/firewire 1 or 2 HBA.

TIA for any comments.

Jerry





====================================================================

 > > USB - ick. I've tried that a couple of times; last time, I had a 500GB
 > > USB 2.0 drive on the Mac Pro, and the throughput was significantly
 > > lower than network I/O using CIFS over gigE. No, USB is for keyboards,
 > > mice, cameras, and thumb drives, not for real storage. I took the
 > > drive out of the case, trashed the case, and installed it in the PVR,
 > > which made my wife very happy.

One word... FireWire  :)  I never buy an enclosure without it, and never
use USB 2.0 on Macs if I can help it.

Moreover Solaris 10 fully supports FireWire PCI cards (at least FW400)
out of the box, so you can theoretically use it on a SPARC if you are
feeling adventurous  :)  Notable that Sun's x86-64 workstations have
FW400 as standard - Sun like FireWire, which makes sense since they
make a point to make real technology that works well available where
it matters.

Also, Solaris 10 has support for a limited number of SATA controllers,
including (but not limited to) Silicon Image Sil3112 and 3114, and, by
extrapolation, it supports 3152 as well as that is used on the Java
Workstations. Using that you could probably pickup a low-cost ESATA
PCI card and hang the SATA disk off the back on it's native bus.

-- 

From bdeloria at gmail.com  Wed Jan 13 13:14:05 2010
From: bdeloria at gmail.com (Brian Deloria)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:14:05 -0600
Subject: [rescue] eSATA or firewire in Solaris Sparc system
In-Reply-To: <4B4E1A31.8070508@oryx.cc>
References: <4B4E1A31.8070508@oryx.cc>
Message-ID: <1a8f33151001131114h34306cc2wb19e7250d3a23939@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Jerry K <sun.mail.list47 at oryx.cc> wrote:
> We had a discussion a while back, which, among other things, discussed an
> eSATA controller for Solaris on Sparc.  Part of the discussion is pasted
> below.
>
> I am currently in a place at $HOME where I would like to be able to add an
> eSATA card to an older Sparc system for low cost storage.  I just went and
> Yahoo'ed the Silicon Image Sil3112 & 3114 controllers below, and from what
I
> can tell from the images, these controllers would be for internal storage,
> not external storage.
>
> Is anyone on the list using these?  If so, for external storage?
>
> If this isn't possible, my second choice will be to look for a compatible
> IEEE1394/firewire 1 or 2 HBA.
>
> TIA for any comments.
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
>
> ====================================================================
>
>> > USB - ick. I've tried that a couple of times; last time, I had a 500GB
>> > USB 2.0 drive on the Mac Pro, and the throughput was significantly
>> > lower than network I/O using CIFS over gigE. No, USB is for keyboards,
>> > mice, cameras, and thumb drives, not for real storage. I took the
>> > drive out of the case, trashed the case, and installed it in the PVR,
>> > which made my wife very happy.
>
> One word... FireWire  :)  I never buy an enclosure without it, and never
> use USB 2.0 on Macs if I can help it.
>
> Moreover Solaris 10 fully supports FireWire PCI cards (at least FW400)
> out of the box, so you can theoretically use it on a SPARC if you are
> feeling adventurous  :)  Notable that Sun's x86-64 workstations have
> FW400 as standard - Sun like FireWire, which makes sense since they
> make a point to make real technology that works well available where
> it matters.
>
> Also, Solaris 10 has support for a limited number of SATA controllers,
> including (but not limited to) Silicon Image Sil3112 and 3114, and, by
> extrapolation, it supports 3152 as well as that is used on the Java
> Workstations. Using that you could probably pickup a low-cost ESATA
> PCI card and hang the SATA disk off the back on it's native bus.
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
> rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue
>

You should just be able to get a dongle that adapts the internal port
to the external and puts it in a nice pc expansion slot bracket.  This
isn't much unlike the old serial ports that had ribbon cables from the
motherboard going out a card slot on the back of the case.  I haven't
tried one of these but I've seen a number of them pop up here and
there.  Give it a try I think they're $8 from Meritline.

From velociraptor at gmail.com  Wed Jan 13 18:15:57 2010
From: velociraptor at gmail.com (velociraptor)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:15:57 -0800
Subject: [rescue] eSATA or firewire in Solaris Sparc system
In-Reply-To: <1a8f33151001131114h34306cc2wb19e7250d3a23939@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4B4E1A31.8070508@oryx.cc>
	<1a8f33151001131114h34306cc2wb19e7250d3a23939@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b9ce685f1001131615y1e4edc95t1961df58aa734ee3@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Brian Deloria <bdeloria at gmail.com> wrote:

> You should just be able to get a dongle that adapts the internal port
> to the external and puts it in a nice pc expansion slot bracket.  This
> isn't much unlike the old serial ports that had ribbon cables from the
> motherboard going out a card slot on the back of the case.  I haven't
> tried one of these but I've seen a number of them pop up here and
> there.  Give it a try I think they're $8 from Meritline.

Also, I believe that the Addonics web site has the port multiplier
cables with the backing plate for the multi-lane connector so you can
just run a single cable to your multi-drive external box.

I'm using an Addonics card that has a Silicon Image chipset in my
Solaris 10 box @ home.

=Nadine=

From newell at cei.net  Wed Jan 13 18:18:42 2010
From: newell at cei.net (Scott Newell)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:18:42 -0600
Subject: [rescue] Anyone using dropbox?
Message-ID: <201001140018.o0E0ImfW016443@host22.the-web-host.com>

I'm about to sign up for the free dropbox trial, so if you're already 
signed up and you'd like me to use you as a referral (I think that 
would get you an extra 250MB?), please send me a link/invite.

thanks!
newell

From sun.mail.list47 at oryx.cc  Wed Jan 13 18:57:21 2010
From: sun.mail.list47 at oryx.cc (Jerry Kemp)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:57:21 -0600
Subject: [rescue] eSATA or firewire in Solaris Sparc system
In-Reply-To: <b9ce685f1001131615y1e4edc95t1961df58aa734ee3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4B4E1A31.8070508@oryx.cc>
	<1a8f33151001131114h34306cc2wb19e7250d3a23939@mail.gmail.com>
	<b9ce685f1001131615y1e4edc95t1961df58aa734ee3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B4E6BF1.1040900@oryx.cc>

I also see that some of the Addonics card are on the HCL.

Which Addonics card are you using?  and are you using Solaris 10, or 
OpenSolaris Nevada, Indiana or another?

Thank you,

Jerry

On 01/13/10 18:15, velociraptor wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Brian Deloria <bdeloria at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> You should just be able to get a dongle that adapts the internal port
>> to the external and puts it in a nice pc expansion slot bracket.  This
>> isn't much unlike the old serial ports that had ribbon cables from the
>> motherboard going out a card slot on the back of the case.  I haven't
>> tried one of these but I've seen a number of them pop up here and
>> there.  Give it a try I think they're $8 from Meritline.
> 
> Also, I believe that the Addonics web site has the port multiplier
> cables with the backing plate for the multi-lane connector so you can
> just run a single cable to your multi-drive external box.
> 
> I'm using an Addonics card that has a Silicon Image chipset in my
> Solaris 10 box @ home.
> 
> =Nadine=
> _______________________________________________
> rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue

From newell at cei.net  Wed Jan 13 19:00:05 2010
From: newell at cei.net (Scott Newell)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:00:05 -0600
Subject: [rescue] Update: Anyone using dropbox?
Message-ID: <201001140100.o0E10Ct7024360@host22.the-web-host.com>

Wow, that was quick!

If anyone wants a referral from me, drop me a private email.

-- 
newell  N5TNL

From swallbridge at gmail.com  Thu Jan 14 00:55:27 2010
From: swallbridge at gmail.com (Shawn Wallbridge)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:55:27 -0800
Subject: [rescue] Free! LCD
Message-ID: <f45240f71001132255s79850de6u1d2caf86453f9103@mail.gmail.com>

Free to a good home, just pay shipping.

SGI 1600SW 16.9" widescreen LCD

shawn

From mj at mjturner.net  Thu Jan 14 05:24:05 2010
From: mj at mjturner.net (Michael-John Turner)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:24:05 +0000
Subject: [rescue] Anyone using dropbox?
In-Reply-To: <201001140018.o0E0ImfW016443@host22.the-web-host.com>
References: <201001140018.o0E0ImfW016443@host22.the-web-host.com>
Message-ID: <20100114112405.GD25724@aurora.pimp.org.za>

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 06:18:42PM -0600, Scott Newell wrote:
> I'm about to sign up for the free dropbox trial, so if you're already
> signed up and you'd like me to use you as a referral (I think that
> would get you an extra 250MB?), please send me a link/invite.

I see you got a referral already :)

I use Dropbox a fair amount (they have an iPhone app too, which works
rather nicely), but only recently read their ToS[1]. Some terms are rather
onerous, for example: 
 "Dropbox reserves the right to terminate Free Accounts at any time, 
 with or without notice." 
I know it's a free account, but that's just nasty.

[1] https://www.dropbox.com/terms

-mj
-- 
 Michael-John Turner
 mj at mjturner.net      <>     http://mjturner.net/

From mj at mjturner.net  Thu Jan 14 05:39:54 2010
From: mj at mjturner.net (Michael-John Turner)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:39:54 +0000
Subject: [rescue] eSATA or firewire in Solaris Sparc system
In-Reply-To: <4B4E1A31.8070508@oryx.cc>
References: <4B4E1A31.8070508@oryx.cc>
Message-ID: <20100114113954.GE25724@aurora.pimp.org.za>

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 01:08:33PM -0600, Jerry K wrote:
> I am currently in a place at $HOME where I would like to be able to
> add an eSATA card to an older Sparc system for low cost storage.  I
> just went and Yahoo'ed the Silicon Image Sil3112 & 3114 controllers
> below, and from what I can tell from the images, these controllers
> would be for internal storage, not external storage.

Does Solaris 10 for SPARC support those controllers? I vaguely remember
there being some differences in SATA support between x86_64 and SPARC, with
the former supporting more low-end controllers and the latter supporting
mostly SAS controllers.

Sorry for being so vague, but it'd be best if you check the SPARC HCL
before laying down any cash.

As has been mentioned, brackets that allow internal SATA ports to be
exposed as eSATA are quite easy to find, so that shouldn't be a problem.

-mj
-- 
 Michael-John Turner
 mj at mjturner.net      <>     http://mjturner.net/

From mouse at Rodents-Montreal.ORG  Thu Jan 14 06:07:09 2010
From: mouse at Rodents-Montreal.ORG (der Mouse)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:07:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [rescue] Anyone using dropbox?
In-Reply-To: <20100114112405.GD25724@aurora.pimp.org.za>
References: <201001140018.o0E0ImfW016443@host22.the-web-host.com>
	<20100114112405.GD25724@aurora.pimp.org.za>
Message-ID: <201001141212.HAA13456@Sparkle.Rodents-Montreal.ORG>

> Some terms are rather onerous, for example:
>  "Dropbox reserves the right to terminate Free Accounts at any time,
>   with or without notice."
> I know it's a free account, but that's just nasty.

Huh?  I'd be astonished if they _didn't_ have a clause like that; it's
almost necessary to make dealing with abuses feasible.  I've even seen
similar clauses in for-pay ToSes.

To me, at least, it's more a question of whether you expect them to
invoke that clause without good reason (FWVO "good reason").

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From lionel4287 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 14 11:10:30 2010
From: lionel4287 at gmail.com (Lionel Peterson)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:10:30 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Anyone using dropbox?
In-Reply-To: <201001141212.HAA13456@Sparkle.Rodents-Montreal.ORG>
References: <201001140018.o0E0ImfW016443@host22.the-web-host.com>
	<20100114112405.GD25724@aurora.pimp.org.za>
	<201001141212.HAA13456@Sparkle.Rodents-Montreal.ORG>
Message-ID: <2E3860EC-6B69-4917-A12C-6730A4E97904@gmail.com>

On Jan 14, 2010, at 7:07 AM, der Mouse <mouse at Rodents-Montreal.ORG>  
wrote:

>> Some terms are rather onerous, for example:
>> "Dropbox reserves the right to terminate Free Accounts at any time,
>>  with or without notice."
>> I know it's a free account, but that's just nasty.
>
> Huh?  I'd be astonished if they _didn't_ have a clause like that; it's
> almost necessary to make dealing with abuses feasible.  I've even seen
> similar clauses in for-pay ToSes.

Agreed.

Lionel

From lionel4287 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 14 11:13:40 2010
From: lionel4287 at gmail.com (Lionel Peterson)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:13:40 -0500
Subject: [rescue] eSATA or firewire in Solaris Sparc system
In-Reply-To: <20100114113954.GE25724@aurora.pimp.org.za>
References: <4B4E1A31.8070508@oryx.cc>
	<20100114113954.GE25724@aurora.pimp.org.za>
Message-ID: <584917B2-34E1-46C5-AB07-F3CA9F69B3C6@gmail.com>

On Jan 14, 2010, at 6:39 AM, Michael-John Turner <mj at mjturner.net>  
wrote:

> As has been mentioned, brackets that allow internal SATA ports to be
> exposed as eSATA are quite easy to find, so that shouldn't be a  
> problem.

Be careful of treating non hot-swap ports as hot-swap. It could cause  
problems, I only raise it as a concern...

Lionel

From ploopster at gmail.com  Thu Jan 14 11:18:19 2010
From: ploopster at gmail.com (Sridhar Ayengar)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:18:19 -0500
Subject: [rescue] eSATA or firewire in Solaris Sparc system
In-Reply-To: <584917B2-34E1-46C5-AB07-F3CA9F69B3C6@gmail.com>
References: <4B4E1A31.8070508@oryx.cc>
	<20100114113954.GE25724@aurora.pimp.org.za>
	<584917B2-34E1-46C5-AB07-F3CA9F69B3C6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B4F51DB.3040007@gmail.com>

Lionel Peterson wrote:
>> As has been mentioned, brackets that allow internal SATA ports to be
>> exposed as eSATA are quite easy to find, so that shouldn't be a problem.
>
> Be careful of treating non hot-swap ports as hot-swap. It could cause
> problems, I only raise it as a concern...

Isn't SATA specified as hot-swap?

Peace...  Sridhar

From ian.finder at gmail.com  Thu Jan 14 12:43:12 2010
From: ian.finder at gmail.com (Ian Finder)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:43:12 -0800
Subject: [rescue] Free! LCD
In-Reply-To: <f45240f71001132255s79850de6u1d2caf86453f9103@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f45240f71001132255s79850de6u1d2caf86453f9103@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <593EDA6A-9B61-4686-9FF7-9C22F0B36253@gmail.com>

If someone else hasn't snagged, I'd like it.

---
Ian Finder
224.659.4204
ian.finder at gmail.com

Sent via mobile.

On Jan 13, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Shawn Wallbridge <swallbridge at gmail.com>  
wrote:

> Free to a good home, just pay shipping.
>
> SGI 1600SW 16.9" widescreen LCD
>
> shawn
> _______________________________________________
> rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue

From jp at celestrion.net  Thu Jan 14 16:32:54 2010
From: jp at celestrion.net (Jonathan Patschke)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:32:54 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [rescue] eSATA or firewire in Solaris Sparc system
In-Reply-To: <4B4F51DB.3040007@gmail.com>
References: <4B4E1A31.8070508@oryx.cc>
	<20100114113954.GE25724@aurora.pimp.org.za>
	<584917B2-34E1-46C5-AB07-F3CA9F69B3C6@gmail.com>
	<4B4F51DB.3040007@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1001141631370.3326@blueshift.celestrion.net>

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:

>> Be careful of treating non hot-swap ports as hot-swap. It could cause
>> problems, I only raise it as a concern...
>
> Isn't SATA specified as hot-swap?

Physically, yes.  Logically, "it depends".  Some cheap controllers can be
coerced to hot-swap by the OS, but don't do it on their own.  Many don't
manage it at all.

-- 
Jonathan Patschke  ) "Science is what we understand well enough to explain
Elgin, TX         (   to a computer.  Art is everything else we do."
USA                )                                    --Dr. Donald Knuth

From mrbill at mrbill.net  Fri Jan 15 09:32:13 2010
From: mrbill at mrbill.net (Bill Bradford)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:32:13 -0600
Subject: [rescue] FS: Popcorn Hour media streaming boxes
Message-ID: <20100115153213.GP5180@mrbill.net>

I replaced my AppleTV with these about 5-6 months ago and have been very
happy.  They're used daily (one of them is running almost continuously) to
stream movies and music off a CIFS/SMB share on my local network, to two
different TVs.

I've decided to replace them with XBMC media center PCs for various
reasons (mostly so I can eventually run Boxee).

Popcorn Hour A100:

http://www.digitalreviews.net/reviews/video/popcorn-hour-a-100-network-media-tank-review.html
(note that this review is old, and there have been massive software
improvements since then)

eGreat M34A (runs same basic firmware as the A100):

http://www.egreatusa.com/egreat-egm34a-networked-media-tank-n34.html

I would like $150 (shipped) for both units; I'd prefer to sell them
together and not separately.

Bill

-- 
Bill Bradford 
Houston, Texas

From dbryant at hms.harvard.edu  Fri Jan 15 14:24:51 2010
From: dbryant at hms.harvard.edu (Bryant, David S.)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:24:51 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Assorted Sun systems available for pickup in Boston MA USA
Message-ID: <0A3424DC8C217647981DCAE62370FEB0275BD29C1D@ITCCRMAIL01.MED.HARVARD.EDU>

Giving back to the community...

We have the following surplus equipment available for pickup in Boston MA
USA.

    One Ultra 10 Desktop (430 MHz, 512 MB, Creator 3D Graphics, 9 GB SCSI, 9
GB IDE, IDE DVDR/CDRW & Dual USB)
    Two E420R 4U rack-mount servers (2x450 MHz, 4GB, 2*18 GB SCSI)
    Two V100 1U rack-mount servers (500 MHz, 1024MB, 2*40 GB IDE)
    One V120 1U rack-mount server (648 MHz, 2*512 MB, 2*36 GB SCSI)

Please contact me off-list for details and to arrange pickup. Shipping these
is impractical.

They will be sent to the recyclers if not claimed by next Friday (1/22/2010).

David

 -=[#]=- -=[#]=- -=[#]=- -=[#]=- -=[#]=- -=[#]=- -=[#]=- -=[#]=-
David Bryant
Senior Unix Systems Administrator, Storage Administrator
Harvard Medical School - Boston Massachusetts
dbryant at hms.harvard.edu

From alaric at metrocast.net  Fri Jan 15 23:16:47 2010
From: alaric at metrocast.net (Phil Stracchino)
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 00:16:47 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Assorted Sun systems available for pickup in Boston MA
 USA
In-Reply-To: <0A3424DC8C217647981DCAE62370FEB0275BD29C1D@ITCCRMAIL01.MED.HARVARD.EDU>
References: <0A3424DC8C217647981DCAE62370FEB0275BD29C1D@ITCCRMAIL01.MED.HARVARD.EDU>
Message-ID: <4B514BBF.80304@metrocast.net>

Bryant, David S. wrote:
> Giving back to the community...
> 
> We have the following surplus equipment available for pickup in Boston MA
> USA.
> 
>     One Ultra 10 Desktop (430 MHz, 512 MB, Creator 3D Graphics, 9 GB SCSI, 9
> GB IDE, IDE DVDR/CDRW & Dual USB)
>     Two E420R 4U rack-mount servers (2x450 MHz, 4GB, 2*18 GB SCSI)
>     Two V100 1U rack-mount servers (500 MHz, 1024MB, 2*40 GB IDE)
>     One V120 1U rack-mount server (648 MHz, 2*512 MB, 2*36 GB SCSI)
> 
> Please contact me off-list for details and to arrange pickup. Shipping these
> is impractical.

David,
While I just retired several older Sun machines myself (including a
U30), I'd like to keep my hand in on real SPARC hardware.  I'd be
interested in taking the V120, and would have practical working use for
a SCSI-equipped 1U box.  I'm relatively local, as in Gilford NH, and may
well be down in Boston this weekend anyway.



-- 
  Phil Stracchino, CDK#2     DoD#299792458     ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355
  alaric at caerllewys.net   alaric at metrocast.net   phil at co.ordinate.org
         Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater
                 It's not the years, it's the mileage.

From alaric at metrocast.net  Fri Jan 15 23:29:04 2010
From: alaric at metrocast.net (Phil Stracchino)
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 00:29:04 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Assorted Sun systems available for pickup in Boston MA
 USA
In-Reply-To: <4B514BBF.80304@metrocast.net>
References: <0A3424DC8C217647981DCAE62370FEB0275BD29C1D@ITCCRMAIL01.MED.HARVARD.EDU>
	<4B514BBF.80304@metrocast.net>
Message-ID: <4B514EA0.9010300@metrocast.net>

Phil Stracchino wrote:
> David,
> While I just retired several older Sun machines myself (including a
> U30), I'd like to keep my hand in on real SPARC hardware.  I'd be
> interested in taking the V120, and would have practical working use for
> a SCSI-equipped 1U box.  I'm relatively local, as in Gilford NH, and may
> well be down in Boston this weekend anyway.

Rats!  Meant to send that offline...


-- 
  Phil Stracchino, CDK#2     DoD#299792458     ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355
  alaric at caerllewys.net   alaric at metrocast.net   phil at co.ordinate.org
         Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater
                 It's not the years, it's the mileage.

From jp at celestrion.net  Sun Jan 17 13:37:38 2010
From: jp at celestrion.net (Jonathan Patschke)
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:37:38 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [rescue] Space Shuttle Main Engine
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1001171334500.3326@blueshift.celestrion.net>

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/17/science/space/17nasa.html

Genuine NASA Space Shuttle main engines.  First-come, first-serve.  Free
to good home, must arrange transportation and pay associated handling
costs.  Please reply to NASA by 19 February 2010.

-- 
Jonathan Patschke  ) "Science is what we understand well enough to explain
Elgin, TX         (   to a computer.  Art is everything else we do."
USA                )                                    --Dr. Donald Knuth

From hamellr at gmail.com  Sun Jan 17 14:29:23 2010
From: hamellr at gmail.com (Rick Hamell)
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:29:23 -0800
Subject: [rescue] Space Shuttle Main Engine
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1001171334500.3326@blueshift.celestrion.net>
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1001171334500.3326@blueshift.celestrion.net>
Message-ID: <4B537323.1050904@gmail.com>

My local Air Museum built a new building a couple of years ago in hopes 
that they could get one. Currently the middle of the exhibit is still 
pretty much wide open. You can get an idea of the building size via the 
last three pictures: http://www.1nova.com/photoblog/?p=432 where the 
Titan Missiles are sitting.

As far as I know they're still planning on it. There are rumors that the 
owner of the museum is ex-CIA and was promised the Enterprise or the 
Atlantis.

And yes, we already have the Spruce Goose there.

Jonathan Patschke wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/17/science/space/17nasa.html
> 
> Genuine NASA Space Shuttle main engines.  First-come, first-serve.  Free
> to good home, must arrange transportation and pay associated handling
> costs.  Please reply to NASA by 19 February 2010.
> 

-- 
Rick Hamell

Linkedin Profile - http://www.linkedin.com/pub/6/946/27
Technology Blog - http://www.1nova.com/blog
Pacific Northwest Photo Blog - http://www.1nova.com/photoblog
http://RickHamell.com
http://Hamell.Net

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of hamellr.vcf]

From crfriend at rcn.com  Sun Jan 17 15:10:24 2010
From: crfriend at rcn.com (Carl R. Friend)
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:10:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [rescue] Space Shuttle Main Engine
In-Reply-To: <4B537323.1050904@gmail.com>
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1001171334500.3326@blueshift.celestrion.net>
	<4B537323.1050904@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1001171606010.9617@zephyr.cacm.org>

    On Sun, 17 Jan 2010, Rick Hamell wrote:

> And yes, we already have the Spruce Goose there.

    Way cool!  Cooler, actually, than a SSME.  With the Spruce
Goose you have a "flight article"; with a SSME, you might have
a spare part.

    I'm half tempted to forward the NYT article link to my wife with a
subject line of, "Can I have one. please?!"  The only problem is that
I put a premium of actually running artifacts I collect.  SSMEs don't
get the best fuel mileage, but the thrust-to-weight-ratio on my small
Nissan.....!  :-)

    Cheers!

+------------------------------------------------+---------------------+
| Carl Richard Friend (UNIX Sysadmin)            | West Boylston       |
| Minicomputer Collector / Enthusiast            | Massachusetts, USA  |
| mailto:crfriend at rcn.com                        +---------------------+
| http://users.rcn.com/crfriend/museum           | ICBM: 42:22N 71:47W |
+------------------------------------------------+---------------------+

From ssandau at gwi.net  Sun Jan 17 16:15:21 2010
From: ssandau at gwi.net (Steve Sandau)
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:15:21 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Space Shuttle Main Engine
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1001171606010.9617@zephyr.cacm.org>
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1001171334500.3326@blueshift.celestrion.net>
	<4B537323.1050904@gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.1001171606010.9617@zephyr.cacm.org>
Message-ID: <4B538BF9.7090500@gwi.net>

>    Way cool!  Cooler, actually, than a SSME.  With the Spruce
> Goose you have a "flight article"; with a SSME, you might have
> a spare part.
> 
>    I'm half tempted to forward the NYT article link to my wife with a
> subject line of, "Can I have one. please?!"  The only problem is that
> I put a premium of actually running artifacts I collect.  SSMEs don't
> get the best fuel mileage, but the thrust-to-weight-ratio on my small
> Nissan.....!  :-)

I was thinking the same sort of thing with my wife. Maybe that would 
make the E3000 I want seem small enough to be OK...

Steve

From alaric at metrocast.net  Sun Jan 17 16:29:59 2010
From: alaric at metrocast.net (Phil Stracchino)
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:29:59 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Anyone have a FH external SCSI chassis suitable for an
	LTO2?
Message-ID: <4B538F67.8030401@metrocast.net>

Does anyone have a 5.25"-full-height open-front external SCSI-III case
lying around unused, suitable for an LTO2?  I need to find a new
external case for my LTO2 (or at least a new power supply that'll fit
into the tape-library module).  I can't mount the drive internally in
any available machine, I don't trust the power supply in the Dell LTO1
external case I already have (it seems not to put out quite enough power
for the LTO2), and I haven't so far been able to find out what input
power the supply in the library module wants or which subset of the 18
available pins it wants it on.  (If I could find that out, or find a
different power supply that would fit into it, I'd love to hack the
library module and use it as an external case.)


-- 
  Phil Stracchino, CDK#2     DoD#299792458     ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355
  alaric at caerllewys.net   alaric at metrocast.net   phil at co.ordinate.org
         Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater
                 It's not the years, it's the mileage.

From adh at an.bradford.ma.us  Sun Jan 17 16:38:57 2010
From: adh at an.bradford.ma.us (Sandwich Maker)
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:38:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [rescue] Space Shuttle Main Engine
Message-ID: <201001172238.o0HMcvq16174@an.bradford.ma.us>

" From: "Carl R. Friend" <crfriend at rcn.com>
" 
" 
"     I'm half tempted to forward the NYT article link to my wife with a
" subject line of, "Can I have one. please?!"  The only problem is that
" I put a premium of actually running artifacts I collect.  SSMEs don't
" get the best fuel mileage, but the thrust-to-weight-ratio on my small
" Nissan.....!  :-)

you'd certainly top the urban folklore about the fellow who put a jato
on his car...

i've actually handled a bit of ssme.  in the early '80s i worked for
an ultrasonic instruments company; i was a peon in a group developing
a flowmeter.  it worked by sending clicks up- and downstream through
the liquid and measuring delta-t, and they sent us a bit of plumbing -
for the o2 iirc - to give it a try, but we couldn't help them.
massive cavitation in the flow totally destroyed our signal.

it was a twisted bit of about 4" pipe iirc, and i was told how
powerful the fuel pumps were, but it was a figure so high it's
difficult to credit without relevant experience, and i don't want to
trust my memory.  'astronomical' would be an appropriate label.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh at an.bradford.ma.us                       and think what none thought

From hamellr at gmail.com  Sun Jan 17 17:29:10 2010
From: hamellr at gmail.com (Rick Hamell)
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:29:10 -0800
Subject: [rescue] Space Shuttle Main Engine
In-Reply-To: <4B538BF9.7090500@gwi.net>
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1001171334500.3326@blueshift.celestrion.net>
	<4B537323.1050904@gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.1001171606010.9617@zephyr.cacm.org>
	<4B538BF9.7090500@gwi.net>
Message-ID: <4B539D46.40901@gmail.com>

I can't seem to find the link now, but I recently saw where NASA was 
pretty much selling and giving away a lot of old stuff primarily to any 
museum that could afford to transport it and give it a good home. I know 
  that the list had some computer equipment on it too.

Steve Sandau wrote:
>>    Way cool!  Cooler, actually, than a SSME.  With the Spruce
>> Goose you have a "flight article"; with a SSME, you might have
>> a spare part.
>>
>>    I'm half tempted to forward the NYT article link to my wife with a
>> subject line of, "Can I have one. please?!"  The only problem is that
>> I put a premium of actually running artifacts I collect.  SSMEs don't
>> get the best fuel mileage, but the thrust-to-weight-ratio on my small
>> Nissan.....!  :-)
> 
> I was thinking the same sort of thing with my wife. Maybe that would 
> make the E3000 I want seem small enough to be OK...
> 
> Steve
> _______________________________________________
> rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue
> 

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From crfriend at rcn.com  Sun Jan 17 18:06:26 2010
From: crfriend at rcn.com (Carl R. Friend)
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:06:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [rescue] Space Shuttle Main Engine
In-Reply-To: <201001172238.o0HMcvq16174@an.bradford.ma.us>
References: <201001172238.o0HMcvq16174@an.bradford.ma.us>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1001171855540.9617@zephyr.cacm.org>

    On Sun, 17 Jan 2010, Sandwich Maker wrote:

> " From: "Carl R. Friend" <crfriend at rcn.com>
>
>> "SSMEs don't get the best fuel mileage, but the thrust-to-weight-
>> "ratio on my small Nissan.....!  :-)"
>
> you'd certainly top the urban folklore about the fellow who put a
> jato on his car...

    At risk of sounding like a mere pedant, I do feel the need to
mention that the proper term is "RATO" for "Rocket Assisted Take-
Off".  "J", as in "jet" assumes quite a bit of assorted ancillary
hardware (like compressors, turbines, and whatnot) whereas rockets
can be as easy as lighting off (via suitably violent means) any
manner of propellent.  (Note: black powder is not a propellant;
it's a low explosive.  Smokeless counts as a propellant, but do
not try this at home.)

> i've actually handled a bit of ssme.  in the early '80s i worked for
> an ultrasonic instruments company; i was a peon in a group developing
> a flowmeter.  it worked by sending clicks up- and downstream through
> the liquid and measuring delta-t, and they sent us a bit of plumbing -
> for the o2 iirc - to give it a try, but we couldn't help them.
> massive cavitation in the flow totally destroyed our signal.

    The operant question here is what they did with the results of
your test.  Did they jsut fly anyway?

+------------------------------------------------+---------------------+
| Carl Richard Friend (UNIX Sysadmin)            | West Boylston       |
| Minicomputer Collector / Enthusiast            | Massachusetts, USA  |
| mailto:crfriend at rcn.com                        +---------------------+
| http://users.rcn.com/crfriend/museum           | ICBM: 42:22N 71:47W |
+------------------------------------------------+---------------------+

From adh at an.bradford.ma.us  Sun Jan 17 20:49:17 2010
From: adh at an.bradford.ma.us (Sandwich Maker)
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:49:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [rescue] Space Shuttle Main Engine
Message-ID: <201001180249.o0I2nHW24208@an.bradford.ma.us>

" From: "Carl R. Friend" <crfriend at rcn.com>
" 
"     On Sun, 17 Jan 2010, Sandwich Maker wrote:
" 
" > " From: "Carl R. Friend" <crfriend at rcn.com>
" >
" >> "SSMEs don't get the best fuel mileage, but the thrust-to-weight-
" >> "ratio on my small Nissan.....!  :-)"
" >
" > you'd certainly top the urban folklore about the fellow who put a
" > jato on his car...
" 
"     At risk of sounding like a mere pedant, I do feel the need to
" mention that the proper term is "RATO" for "Rocket Assisted Take-
" Off".  "J", as in "jet" assumes quite a bit of assorted ancillary
" hardware (like compressors, turbines, and whatnot) whereas rockets
" can be as easy as lighting off (via suitably violent means) any
" manner of propellent.  (Note: black powder is not a propellant;
" it's a low explosive.  Smokeless counts as a propellant, but do
" not try this at home.)

yes, 'jet' has come to be shorthand for 'jet engine', 'jet
propulsion', etc...  but even rockets emit a jet of high-velocity
exhaust.

jetstream
jets of matter ejected from [near] black holes
jet of water - or air - from a nozzle

" > i've actually handled a bit of ssme.  in the early '80s i worked for
" > an ultrasonic instruments company; i was a peon in a group developing
" > a flowmeter.  it worked by sending clicks up- and downstream through
" > the liquid and measuring delta-t, and they sent us a bit of plumbing -
" > for the o2 iirc - to give it a try, but we couldn't help them.
" > massive cavitation in the flow totally destroyed our signal.
" 
"     The operant question here is what they did with the results of
" your test.  Did they just fly anyway?

yup.  at that time the very turbulent cryo fragged anything they
could stick in the stream, so they gave up and went back to estimation
based on indirect measurements and inferences.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh at an.bradford.ma.us                       and think what none thought

From wa2egp at att.net  Sun Jan 17 23:52:05 2010
From: wa2egp at att.net (wa2egp at att.net)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 05:52:05 +0000
Subject: [rescue] Space Shuttle Main Engine
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1001171334500.3326@blueshift.celestrion.net>
Message-ID: <011820100552.12139.4B53F7050002600C00002F6B22230706129B0A02D29B9B0EBF9F090ACD0E99@att.net>

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jonathan Patschke <jp at celestrion.net>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/17/science/space/17nasa.html
> 
> Genuine NASA Space Shuttle main engines.  First-come, first-serve.  Free
> to good home, must arrange transportation and pay associated handling
> costs.  Please reply to NASA by 19 February 2010.
>

No problem.  A standard flatbed trailer will handle one of those babies. (I've
seen one on a trailer so I know)  BTW, they are non-polluting.

Bob

From md.benson at gmail.com  Mon Jan 18 02:24:20 2010
From: md.benson at gmail.com (Mark Benson)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:24:20 +0000
Subject: [rescue] Space Shuttle Main Engine
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1001171334500.3326@blueshift.celestrion.net>
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1001171334500.3326@blueshift.celestrion.net>
Message-ID: <6670F48E-6310-49D6-9E4B-5F9BEC255856@gmail.com>

On 17 Jan 2010, at 19:37, Jonathan Patschke wrote:

> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/17/science/space/17nasa.html
>
> Genuine NASA Space Shuttle main engines.  First-come, first-serve.  Free
> to good home, must arrange transportation and pay associated handling
> costs.  Please reply to NASA by 19 February 2010.

Yet *again* I curse living so far from the USA. I've become a *serious* Space
Shuttle geek over the last year (I always have had a taste for space) thanks
to all the great folks I've met on Twitter who geek up space stuff, some of
them work at KSC on the Shuttle program (yeh they are nervous). I'm basically
in the enviable situation of being able to get an answer (eventually) to
pretty much anything technical I need to know about the system. Saves trawling
through the handbook at the very least :)

If they give away the Vernier engines from the RCS system I'd serious consider
asking the cost of freight on one. Sealed in a plexi-glass box it'd make a
damn fine coffee table ornament :)


--
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My Blog:
<http://markbenson.org/blog>
Follow me on Twitter:
http://twitter.com/mdbenson

"Never send a human to do a machine's job..."

From alaric at metrocast.net  Mon Jan 18 12:40:59 2010
From: alaric at metrocast.net (Phil Stracchino)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:40:59 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Space Shuttle Main Engine
In-Reply-To: <6670F48E-6310-49D6-9E4B-5F9BEC255856@gmail.com>
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1001171334500.3326@blueshift.celestrion.net>
	<6670F48E-6310-49D6-9E4B-5F9BEC255856@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B54AB3B.5020303@metrocast.net>

On 01/18/10 03:24, Mark Benson wrote:
> If they give away the Vernier engines from the RCS system I'd serious consider
> asking the cost of freight on one. Sealed in a plexi-glass box it'd make a
> damn fine coffee table ornament :)


SRSLY.  I'd be all over that.  If I had a flatbed truck, I might
seriously consider asking for an SSME...   just to have one.


I could use it as a headstone for when my wife would shortly thereafter
kill me.  ;)



-- 
  Phil Stracchino, CDK#2     DoD#299792458     ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355
  alaric at caerllewys.net   alaric at metrocast.net   phil at co.ordinate.org
         Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater
                 It's not the years, it's the mileage.

From crfriend at rcn.com  Mon Jan 18 14:38:36 2010
From: crfriend at rcn.com (Carl R. Friend)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:38:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [rescue] Space Shuttle Main Engine
In-Reply-To: <4B54AB3B.5020303@metrocast.net>
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1001171334500.3326@blueshift.celestrion.net>
	<6670F48E-6310-49D6-9E4B-5F9BEC255856@gmail.com>
	<4B54AB3B.5020303@metrocast.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1001181536150.14492@zephyr.cacm.org>

    On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Phil Stracchino wrote:

> I could use [the SSME] as a headstone for when my wife would shortly
> thereafter kill me.  ;)

    Mr. Stracchino wins the bid process by way of a worthy cause!

+------------------------------------------------+---------------------+
| Carl Richard Friend (UNIX Sysadmin)            | West Boylston       |
| Minicomputer Collector / Enthusiast            | Massachusetts, USA  |
| mailto:crfriend at rcn.com                        +---------------------+
| http://users.rcn.com/crfriend/museum           | ICBM: 42:22N 71:47W |
+------------------------------------------------+---------------------+

From crfriend at rcn.com  Mon Jan 18 14:42:17 2010
From: crfriend at rcn.com (Carl R. Friend)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:42:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [rescue] Space Shuttle Main Engine
In-Reply-To: <201001180249.o0I2nHW24208@an.bradford.ma.us>
References: <201001180249.o0I2nHW24208@an.bradford.ma.us>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1001181539130.14492@zephyr.cacm.org>

    On Sun, 17 Jan 2010, Sandwich Maker wrote:

> yes, 'jet' has come to be shorthand for 'jet engine', 'jet
> propulsion', etc...  but even rockets emit a jet of high-velocity
> exhaust.

    Point taken.  {thwacks head with large tome}

> yup.  at that time the very turbulent cryo fragged anything they
> could stick in the stream, so they gave up and went back to estimation
> based on indirect measurements and inferences.

    In this case, it looks like they were actually pretty close to
right.  The SSMEs are remarkably reliable, and even if one quits on
the way up, the others just get to burn a bit longer.

+------------------------------------------------+---------------------+
| Carl Richard Friend (UNIX Sysadmin)            | West Boylston       |
| Minicomputer Collector / Enthusiast            | Massachusetts, USA  |
| mailto:crfriend at rcn.com                        +---------------------+
| http://users.rcn.com/crfriend/museum           | ICBM: 42:22N 71:47W |
+------------------------------------------------+---------------------+

From md.benson at gmail.com  Mon Jan 18 15:18:31 2010
From: md.benson at gmail.com (Mark Benson)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:18:31 +0000
Subject: [rescue] Space Shuttle Main Engine
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1001181539130.14492@zephyr.cacm.org>
References: <201001180249.o0I2nHW24208@an.bradford.ma.us>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.1001181539130.14492@zephyr.cacm.org>
Message-ID: <9D87BE7A-1D67-47D3-A9F2-35A550681B6A@gmail.com>

On 18 Jan 2010, at 20:42, Carl R. Friend wrote:

> In this case, it looks like they were actually pretty close to
> right.  The SSMEs are remarkably reliable, and even if one quits on
> the way up, the others just get to burn a bit longer.

Yep. It's quite a piece of equipment.

Further more past a certain point it can still reach orbit on one engine,
impressive redundancy :)

I'll refrain from getting too boring, but suffice to say they have never
aborted a mission on ascent (not under their control anyway). They are on
their 130th launch prep at the moment. That's 128 (discounting Challenger)
successful launches and zero SSME complete failures. Suffice to say the next
generation of launch vehicles will likely continue to use the same engines,
and hopefully recover them somehow. They are pretty expensive units and
designed for extensive reuse!

I'll miss that bird when she sets down for the last time :*(


--
Mark Benson

My Blog:
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From jon at jonworld.com  Mon Jan 18 16:32:16 2010
From: jon at jonworld.com (Jonathan J. M. Katz)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:32:16 -0500
Subject: [rescue] PC100 Memory? Ultra 2s?
Message-ID: <3b936931001181432n2190e72end2207943abbaddeb@mail.gmail.com>

All,

I've got a 2nd gen iMac (15" tube, firewire) that I'm getting up and
running. It seems to be picky about memory and only wants PC100 DIMMs.
Does anyone have some sitting around that need a new home? Will pay
shipping to 46219.

Also, someone mentioned some Ultra 2s FFS; I still am wanting to set
one up as a dedicated snort/IDS box (my SS20 doesn't have enough CPU
for it.) Are those still out there?

Thanks!

-- 
-Jon
Jonathan Katz, Indianapolis, IN.

From alaric at metrocast.net  Mon Jan 18 16:48:44 2010
From: alaric at metrocast.net (Phil Stracchino)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:48:44 -0500
Subject: [rescue] PC100 Memory? Ultra 2s?
In-Reply-To: <3b936931001181432n2190e72end2207943abbaddeb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3b936931001181432n2190e72end2207943abbaddeb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B54E54C.5070008@metrocast.net>

On 01/18/10 17:32, Jonathan J. M. Katz wrote:
> All,
> 
> I've got a 2nd gen iMac (15" tube, firewire) that I'm getting up and
> running. It seems to be picky about memory and only wants PC100 DIMMs.
> Does anyone have some sitting around that need a new home? Will pay
> shipping to 46219.

I may be able to free up a stack of PC100 RAM *soon*.  (A friend offered
me some Socket 939 motherboards complete with CPUs and RAM, and I'm
planning on rebuilding a couple of machines on them that are currently
either Socket A or Slot 1.)

> Also, someone mentioned some Ultra 2s FFS; I still am wanting to set
> one up as a dedicated snort/IDS box (my SS20 doesn't have enough CPU
> for it.) Are those still out there?

I have a dual-400MHz U2 with 512MB RAM that would welcome an honest job.
 I don't remember what it has by way of disk.


-- 
  Phil Stracchino, CDK#2     DoD#299792458     ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355
  alaric at caerllewys.net   alaric at metrocast.net   phil at co.ordinate.org
         Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater
                 It's not the years, it's the mileage.

From leaknoil at comcast.net  Mon Jan 18 16:57:06 2010
From: leaknoil at comcast.net (leaknoil)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:57:06 -0800
Subject: [rescue] PC100 Memory? Ultra 2s?
In-Reply-To: <4B54E54C.5070008@metrocast.net>
References: <3b936931001181432n2190e72end2207943abbaddeb@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B54E54C.5070008@metrocast.net>
Message-ID: <4B54E742.4060900@comcast.net>

Just so you know the G4 macs are really picky about simms. Very few of 
ones I have tried out of PC's have worked even though they were PC100 
and should have worked in theory. It has something to do with the macs 
memory controller only being able to handle certain chip densities . 
That is what I was told anyway. PC don't care as much so, their simms 
were made with whatever was cheapest at the moment. I may just have bad 
luck but, my experience has been that if it didn't come out of another 
G4 about 90% of the time it didn't work when I tried it in a G4. Simm 
known to be good in G4 go for a premium on fleabay as well.

Phil Stracchino wrote:
> On 01/18/10 17:32, Jonathan J. M. Katz wrote:
>   
>> All,
>>
>> I've got a 2nd gen iMac (15" tube, firewire) that I'm getting up and
>> running. It seems to be picky about memory and only wants PC100 DIMMs.
>> Does anyone have some sitting around that need a new home? Will pay
>> shipping to 46219.
>>     
>
> I may be able to free up a stack of PC100 RAM *soon*.  (A friend offered
> me some Socket 939 motherboards complete with CPUs and RAM, and I'm
> planning on rebuilding a couple of machines on them that are currently
> either Socket A or Slot 1.)
>
>   
>> Also, someone mentioned some Ultra 2s FFS; I still am wanting to set
>> one up as a dedicated snort/IDS box (my SS20 doesn't have enough CPU
>> for it.) Are those still out there?
>>     
>
> I have a dual-400MHz U2 with 512MB RAM that would welcome an honest job.
>  I don't remember what it has by way of disk.

From pat at computer-refuge.org  Mon Jan 18 17:14:40 2010
From: pat at computer-refuge.org (Patrick Finnegan)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:14:40 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Free for pickup: Sun Ray 100
Message-ID: <201001181814.40198.pat@computer-refuge.org>

I have 3 new in box, and 3 new sans-box Sun Ray 100s free for pickup in 
downtown Lafayette, IN.  I've got some keyboards and mice for them as 
well. I don't want to ship them unless you want to give me much more 
than they're worth. :)

I'd rather give them away then trash them, but if they're not claimed by 
Jan 25, they'll get thrown out.

Pat
-- 
Purdue University Research Computing ---  http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/
The Computer Refuge                  ---  http://computer-refuge.org

From adh at an.bradford.ma.us  Mon Jan 18 21:06:42 2010
From: adh at an.bradford.ma.us (Sandwich Maker)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:06:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [rescue] PC100 Memory? Ultra 2s?
Message-ID: <201001190306.o0J36g822897@an.bradford.ma.us>

" From: "Jonathan J. M. Katz" <jon at jonworld.com>
" 
" 
" I've got a 2nd gen iMac (15" tube, firewire) that I'm getting up and
" running. It seems to be picky about memory and only wants PC100 DIMMs.

you tried pc133?  afaik there are 2 flavors: low density which is
pc100/pc66 compatible, and high density which isn't.

slot loaders will take up to 2x512m pc100 sticks.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh at an.bradford.ma.us                       and think what none thought

From me at dansikorski.com  Tue Jan 19 23:34:31 2010
From: me at dansikorski.com (Dan Sikorski)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:34:31 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Free Docking station and Maintenance Kit
Message-ID: <4B5695E7.1020104@dansikorski.com>

I have a ThinkPad Dock II type 28770-10U, but no laptop that uses one.

I also have a maintenance kit for a laserjet 8000, but no printer to put 
it in (it does not fit the laserjet 8100 or 8150).  This is a refurb 
fuser, but the rollers are new.


Both items are in boxes and ready to ship out, but I'm notoriously lazy 
when it comes to actually sending things, so don't expect them too 
quickly.  Available for cost of shipping from 46637 (South Bend, IN).


     -Dan Sikorski

From aewing at gmail.com  Wed Jan 20 08:53:36 2010
From: aewing at gmail.com (Ahmed Ewing)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:53:36 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Available FS on Boston Craigslist: 1960s T&T Mainframe
	Computer
Message-ID: <ad3c09601001200653y10e7619en50878f38585dcfc7@mail.gmail.com>

As usual, no connection to the seller (and no knowledge of that
platform)... just passing word along to the list after stumbling
across this in my travels. Seems like he is willing to palletize/ship,
and I know we have some mainframe heads here who could be interested.

http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/sys/1558227590.html

Discuss! :)

-A

From jeff at flambe.org  Wed Jan 20 11:06:51 2010
From: jeff at flambe.org (Jeff Cole)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:06:51 -0500
Subject: [rescue] PC100 Memory? Ultra 2s?
In-Reply-To: <3b936931001181432n2190e72end2207943abbaddeb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3b936931001181432n2190e72end2207943abbaddeb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100120170651.GM23353@flambe.org>

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 05:32:16PM -0500, Jonathan J. M. Katz wrote:
> Also, someone mentioned some Ultra 2s FFS; I still am wanting to set
> one up as a dedicated snort/IDS box (my SS20 doesn't have enough CPU
> for it.) Are those still out there?

I've got an Ultra5 with no disk (and no RAM I think) free for shipping. Salvaged from the junk pile at work.

-- 
It's not working because:  Write-only-memory subsystem too slow for this machine. Contact your local dealer.

From newell at cei.net  Fri Jan 22 10:54:39 2010
From: newell at cei.net (Scott Newell)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:54:39 -0600
Subject: [rescue] Source for used UPS?
Message-ID: <201001221654.o0MGseZm003185@host22.the-web-host.com>

I'd like to get a decent UPS.  Probably 1.5kVA or larger, 120V, single
phase.  I'm ok with buying one with no batteries and getting batteries
elsewhere, if I can save some bucks that way.  Is eBay my best option, or
are there companies that specialize in affordable used battery backups?  

I'm located in the southern US, and we have a loading dock and forklift...

thanks!
newell

From jdboyd at jdboyd.net  Fri Jan 22 10:57:35 2010
From: jdboyd at jdboyd.net (Joshua Boyd)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:57:35 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Source for used UPS?
In-Reply-To: <201001221654.o0MGseZm003185@host22.the-web-host.com>
References: <201001221654.o0MGseZm003185@host22.the-web-host.com>
Message-ID: <20100122165735.GD15947@jd-colo.catpro>

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:54:39AM -0600, Scott Newell wrote:
> I'd like to get a decent UPS.  Probably 1.5kVA or larger, 120V, single
> phase.  I'm ok with buying one with no batteries and getting batteries
> elsewhere, if I can save some bucks that way.  Is eBay my best option, or
> are there companies that specialize in affordable used battery backups?  
> 
> I'm located in the southern US, and we have a loading dock and forklift...

I like think3p.com.  I've also had good results with refurbups.com, but
think3p.com seemed a bit nicer.

From shatle at nfldinet.com  Fri Jan 22 11:12:46 2010
From: shatle at nfldinet.com (Steve Hatle)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:12:46 -0600
Subject: [rescue] Source for used UPS?
In-Reply-To: <20100122165735.GD15947@jd-colo.catpro>
Message-ID: <C77F38AE.88269%shatle@nfldinet.com>

On 1/22/10 10:57 AM, "Joshua Boyd" wrote:

> 
> I like think3p.com.  I've also had good results with refurbups.com, but
> think3p.com seemed a bit nicer.


I've used refurbups.com a couple of times, and they've been OK.

Steve

From swallbridge at gmail.com  Fri Jan 22 12:36:50 2010
From: swallbridge at gmail.com (Shawn Wallbridge)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:36:50 -0800
Subject: [rescue] Gear for sale
In-Reply-To: <f45240f70912021624v6d3b1d95xac90c6ca9e2d6902@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f45240f70912021624v6d3b1d95xac90c6ca9e2d6902@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f45240f71001221036x36b97903o3495704648a5b250@mail.gmail.com>

If anyone is still interested in this stuff, I will 'sell' it in
return for a reasonable donation to the red cross. I need it gone.

thanks
shawn

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Shawn Wallbridge <swallbridge at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I need to make some room, so I have the following for sale. Prices are
> open to negotiation.
>
> MegaRAID SAS 8204ELP 4 Port Low Profile PCI-E SAS controller w/ 1-4 cable
$75
> http://shorterlink.org/6797
>
> HP LSI SAS3080X-HP 8 port PCI-X SAS controller $20
>
> Sun LSI (FRU 375-3366-01) Low Profile PCI-X U320 SCSI Controller $20
>
> 3Ware 9500S-12  PCI-X 12 Port SATA Raid controller $100
>
> 3Ware 7500-4LP PCI-X 4 port IDE RAID controller $20
>
> 4x Apple Fibre Channel cables $10 each

From alaric at metrocast.net  Fri Jan 22 12:48:33 2010
From: alaric at metrocast.net (Phil Stracchino)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:48:33 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Gear for sale
In-Reply-To: <f45240f71001221036x36b97903o3495704648a5b250@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f45240f70912021624v6d3b1d95xac90c6ca9e2d6902@mail.gmail.com>
	<f45240f71001221036x36b97903o3495704648a5b250@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B59F301.70504@metrocast.net>

On 01/22/10 13:36, Shawn Wallbridge wrote:
> If anyone is still interested in this stuff, I will 'sell' it in
> return for a reasonable donation to the red cross. I need it gone.

I very probably have a use - now - for the LSI U320 controller, and I
MIGHT have a use for the SAS controllers.  (If nothing else, the LSI
3080X would be a spare in the event one of my two fails.)  I really have
no use for the 3Ware controllers (I already have one 9500S-12 sitting
here) or the FC cables, but if you just want to get them all out and
gone, I'd be willing to take them as a package deal.


-- 
  Phil Stracchino, CDK#2     DoD#299792458     ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355
  alaric at caerllewys.net   alaric at metrocast.net   phil at co.ordinate.org
         Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater
                 It's not the years, it's the mileage.

From alaric at metrocast.net  Fri Jan 22 15:23:26 2010
From: alaric at metrocast.net (Phil Stracchino)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:23:26 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Gear for sale
In-Reply-To: <4B59F301.70504@metrocast.net>
References: <f45240f70912021624v6d3b1d95xac90c6ca9e2d6902@mail.gmail.com>
	<f45240f71001221036x36b97903o3495704648a5b250@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B59F301.70504@metrocast.net>
Message-ID: <4B5A174E.8010201@metrocast.net>

On 01/22/10 13:48, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> On 01/22/10 13:36, Shawn Wallbridge wrote:
>> If anyone is still interested in this stuff, I will 'sell' it in
>> return for a reasonable donation to the red cross. I need it gone.
> 
> I very probably have a use - now - for the LSI U320 controller, and I
> MIGHT have a use for the SAS controllers.  (If nothing else, the LSI
> 3080X would be a spare in the event one of my two fails.)  I really have
> no use for the 3Ware controllers (I already have one 9500S-12 sitting
> here) or the FC cables, but if you just want to get them all out and
> gone, I'd be willing to take them as a package deal.

Dang.  Coulda sworn I sent that offlist...

-- 
  Phil Stracchino, CDK#2     DoD#299792458     ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355
  alaric at caerllewys.net   alaric at metrocast.net   phil at co.ordinate.org
         Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater
                 It's not the years, it's the mileage.

From md.benson at gmail.com  Fri Jan 22 17:03:28 2010
From: md.benson at gmail.com (Mark Benson)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:03:28 +0000
Subject: [rescue] Gear for sale
In-Reply-To: <f45240f71001221036x36b97903o3495704648a5b250@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f45240f70912021624v6d3b1d95xac90c6ca9e2d6902@mail.gmail.com>
	<f45240f71001221036x36b97903o3495704648a5b250@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EBE8829B-CBEB-4274-9DBD-2E4B945EB533@gmail.com>

On 22 Jan 2010, at 18:36, Shawn Wallbridge wrote:

> If anyone is still interested in this stuff, I will 'sell' it in
> return for a reasonable donation to the red cross. I need it gone.
>> HP LSI SAS3080X-HP 8 port PCI-X SAS controller $20

Would you be able to tel me more about this card?

Is it able to use SATA disks?

Does it use 1 to 1 cables or the big multi-plug cables that split to each
disk?

Any website links?

Would you ship to the UK, I'll pay obviously?

Do you take PayPal?

Thanks

--
Mark Benson

My Blog:
<http://markbenson.org/blog>
Follow me on Twitter:
http://twitter.com/mdbenson

"Never send a human to do a machine's job..."

From md.benson at gmail.com  Fri Jan 22 17:04:38 2010
From: md.benson at gmail.com (Mark Benson)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:04:38 +0000
Subject: [rescue] Gear for sale
In-Reply-To: <f45240f71001221036x36b97903o3495704648a5b250@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f45240f70912021624v6d3b1d95xac90c6ca9e2d6902@mail.gmail.com>
	<f45240f71001221036x36b97903o3495704648a5b250@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0C927358-E5F3-4953-8761-ABFABF88B7CC@gmail.com>

On 22 Jan 2010, at 18:36, Shawn Wallbridge wrote:

> If anyone is still interested in this stuff, I will 'sell' it in
> return for a reasonable donation to the red cross. I need it gone.

Damn I just did the same thing Phil did!

Must be a lot of brain fog around, it *is* Friday :P


-- 
Mark Benson

My Blog:
<http://markbenson.org/blog>
Follow me on Twitter:
http://twitter.com/mdbenson

"Never send a human to do a machine's job..."

From md.benson at gmail.com  Fri Jan 22 17:23:11 2010
From: md.benson at gmail.com (Mark Benson)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:23:11 +0000
Subject: [rescue] Gear for sale
In-Reply-To: <f45240f71001221036x36b97903o3495704648a5b250@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f45240f70912021624v6d3b1d95xac90c6ca9e2d6902@mail.gmail.com>
	<f45240f71001221036x36b97903o3495704648a5b250@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F79B83AB-DFD3-4007-9CE4-1E839F16937A@gmail.com>

On 22 Jan 2010, at 18:36, Shawn Wallbridge wrote:

> If anyone is still interested in this stuff, I will 'sell' it in
> return for a reasonable donation to the red cross. I need it gone.

Damn I just did the same thing Phil did!

Must be a lot of brain fog around, it *is* Friday :P


-- 
Mark Benson

My Blog:
<http://markbenson.org/blog>
Follow me on Twitter:
http://twitter.com/mdbenson

"Never send a human to do a machine's job..."

From alaric at metrocast.net  Fri Jan 22 18:21:01 2010
From: alaric at metrocast.net (Phil Stracchino)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:21:01 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Gear for sale
In-Reply-To: <EBE8829B-CBEB-4274-9DBD-2E4B945EB533@gmail.com>
References: <f45240f70912021624v6d3b1d95xac90c6ca9e2d6902@mail.gmail.com>
	<f45240f71001221036x36b97903o3495704648a5b250@mail.gmail.com>
	<EBE8829B-CBEB-4274-9DBD-2E4B945EB533@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B5A40ED.3000605@metrocast.net>

On 01/22/10 18:03, Mark Benson wrote:
> On 22 Jan 2010, at 18:36, Shawn Wallbridge wrote:
> 
>> If anyone is still interested in this stuff, I will 'sell' it in
>> return for a reasonable donation to the red cross. I need it gone.
>>> HP LSI SAS3080X-HP 8 port PCI-X SAS controller $20
> 
> Would you be able to tel me more about this card?
> 
> Is it able to use SATA disks?

With the right splitter cables, yes.

> Does it use 1 to 1 cables or the big multi-plug cables that split to each
> disk?

4:1 splitter cables.

-- 
  Phil Stracchino, CDK#2     DoD#299792458     ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355
  alaric at caerllewys.net   alaric at metrocast.net   phil at co.ordinate.org
         Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater
                 It's not the years, it's the mileage.

From danduncan at gmail.com  Fri Jan 22 23:54:04 2010
From: danduncan at gmail.com (Dan Duncan)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:54:04 -0700
Subject: [rescue] Source for used UPS?
In-Reply-To: <201001221654.o0MGseZm003185@host22.the-web-host.com>
References: <201001221654.o0MGseZm003185@host22.the-web-host.com>
Message-ID: <90d7c8751001222154v2a88728eua217f1a0c3b70383@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Scott Newell <newell at cei.net> wrote:
> I'd like to get a decent UPS.  Probably 1.5kVA or larger, 120V, single
> phase.  I'm ok with buying one with no batteries and getting batteries
> elsewhere, if I can save some bucks that way.  Is eBay my best option, or
> are there companies that specialize in affordable used battery backups?

I got a used UPS from a local guy I met at a ham fest who refurbs
them.  He buys "dead" ones, tests them, then replaces the batteries
which is usually what goes wrong with them and shipping batteries or
UPS units with batteries is pricy.  I asked him to keep an eye out for
one that met my specs (24V internal and would power up without AC for
use primarily as an inverter in a 24V truck, a Unimog 404 radio truck)
since he was already doing the legwork always looking for fixable ones
locally.  It only took a couple of weeks (and cost a lot less than a
comparable inverter) and came with a refurb warranty from a LOCAL
seller.  Just a thought.


--
Dan Duncan

From jdboyd at jdboyd.net  Sat Jan 23 13:14:21 2010
From: jdboyd at jdboyd.net (Joshua Boyd)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 14:14:21 -0500
Subject: [rescue] E250, U80, and RAM
Message-ID: <20100123191421.GA6528@jd-colo.catpro>

I see that some memory kits are compatible across a E250 and a U80.  I
also see that some kits don't seem to list both.  Is there anything is
really not compatible with either machine (meaning they just chose not
to qualify it), or are all sticks interchangable?  

In particular I want to move memory from a E250 to upgrade a U80 before
trying to find a new home for the E250.

From lionel4287 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 23 17:30:34 2010
From: lionel4287 at gmail.com (Lionel Peterson)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:30:34 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Source for used UPS?
In-Reply-To: <C77F38AE.88269%shatle@nfldinet.com>
References: <C77F38AE.88269%shatle@nfldinet.com>
Message-ID: <B8B0D9FC-5593-46E8-B81D-4849E60EE80E@gmail.com>

On Jan 22, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Steve Hatle <shatle at nfldinet.com> wrote:

> On 1/22/10 10:57 AM, "Joshua Boyd" wrote:
>
>>
>> I like think3p.com.  I've also had good results with refurbups.com,  
>> but
>> think3p.com seemed a bit nicer.
>
>
> I've used refurbups.com a couple of times, and they've been OK.

University surplus sales? State surplus sales? Money for replacement  
UPS is often easier to get than money for replacement batteries in  
these environments...

I used to get SmartUPS 1500 tower UPS with dead batteries for $5...  
Some had network management cards ;^)

Lionel

From patrick at zill.net  Wed Jan 27 18:05:44 2010
From: patrick at zill.net (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:05:44 -0500
Subject: [rescue] IBM 7026-6M1
Message-ID: <4B60D4D8.2090201@zill.net>

Can anyone with RS/6000 experience comment on the 7026-6M1 with 8x
750Mhz procs?  The one I see only have 8GB, is it easy (I mean
cheap/inexpensive) to upgrade to more?

--Patrick

From jp at celestrion.net  Wed Jan 27 21:15:34 2010
From: jp at celestrion.net (Jonathan Patschke)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:15:34 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [rescue] IBM 7026-6M1
In-Reply-To: <4B60D4D8.2090201@zill.net>
References: <4B60D4D8.2090201@zill.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1001272113100.3326@blueshift.celestrion.net>

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote:

> Can anyone with RS/6000 experience comment on the 7026-6M1 with 8x
> 750Mhz procs?

Nice machines if you're running Oracle or applications with a more
commercial instruction mix.  Scientific performance isn't great.

> The one I see only have 8GB, is it easy (I mean cheap/inexpensive) to
> upgrade to more?

Ah, this is your first IBM system?

-- 
Jonathan Patschke  ) "Science is what we understand well enough to explain
Elgin, TX         (   to a computer.  Art is everything else we do."
USA                )                                    --Dr. Donald Knuth

From patrick at zill.net  Wed Jan 27 21:21:06 2010
From: patrick at zill.net (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:21:06 -0500
Subject: [rescue] IBM 7026-6M1
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1001272113100.3326@blueshift.celestrion.net>
References: <4B60D4D8.2090201@zill.net>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.1001272113100.3326@blueshift.celestrion.net>
Message-ID: <4B6102A2.6030703@zill.net>

Jonathan Patschke wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote:
> 
>> Can anyone with RS/6000 experience comment on the 7026-6M1 with 8x
>> 750Mhz procs?
> 
> Nice machines if you're running Oracle or applications with a more
> commercial instruction mix.  Scientific performance isn't great.
> 
>> The one I see only have 8GB, is it easy (I mean cheap/inexpensive) to
>> upgrade to more?
> 
> Ah, this is your first IBM system?
> 

Well I am trying to decide if it is worth getting.  I don't know much
about the memory architecture of RS6K... I figure it runs Linux decently
given IBM's involvement, as well as AIX of course.

I am not going to buy support for it, it just needs to work.

If RAM is hideously expensive, it doesn't much matter how cheap the
system is ...

--Patrick

From jp at celestrion.net  Wed Jan 27 21:57:49 2010
From: jp at celestrion.net (Jonathan Patschke)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:57:49 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [rescue] IBM 7026-6M1
In-Reply-To: <4B6102A2.6030703@zill.net>
References: <4B60D4D8.2090201@zill.net>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.1001272113100.3326@blueshift.celestrion.net>
	<4B6102A2.6030703@zill.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1001272144440.3326@blueshift.celestrion.net>

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote:

>> Ah, this is your first IBM system?
>
> Well I am trying to decide if it is worth getting.  I don't know much
> about the memory architecture of RS6K... I figure it runs Linux decently
> given IBM's involvement, as well as AIX of course.

I've never tried running Linux on a p660, but it does run AIX
exceptionally well.  One word of advice, though: leave the system running.
Depending on the installed cards and the amount of memory, BIST/POST can
take about a half hour.

> I am not going to buy support for it, it just needs to work.

Right.  My experience with the p660 was that the power supplies in it are
relatively unstable.  We had two systems (four power supplies each) at
$agency, and I think all the supplies eventually got replaced over the
course of the two years I was there.  You will need an external disk
shelf, since the IO drawer has a pitifully small number of disk slots (2,
I think).

Oh!  One huge thing:  Be absolutely sure you get both "halves".  A lot of
eBay vendors think the primary I/O drawer is the whole system, since
that's where the CD drive, operator's panel, and power button are.  If you
open it up, you'll see lots of PCI slots, but no CPUs.  CPUs and memory
are in the CEC drawer, which is totally nondescript apart from the two
huge boa-cables running between it and the I/O drawer.

Also, note that the the IBM-specified power numbers for a p660 CEC with
one I/O drawer range from 620VA (typical) to 1140VA (maximum) @ 2015 -
3627 BTU/hr.

> If RAM is hideously expensive, it doesn't much matter how cheap the
> system is ...

It is.  My recollection is that the p660 takes IBM-proprietary 200-pin ECC
DDR DIMMs.  The p610, p615, and p630 take memory that's still quite
expensive (266MHz DDR DIMMs with ECC, I -think-), but a lot more common.

-- 
Jonathan Patschke  ) "Science is what we understand well enough to explain
Elgin, TX         (   to a computer.  Art is everything else we do."
USA                )                                    --Dr. Donald Knuth

From mrbill at mrbill.net  Thu Jan 28 11:27:03 2010
From: mrbill at mrbill.net (Bill Bradford)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:27:03 -0600
Subject: [rescue] Tadpole/RDI Docs Archive
Message-ID: <20100128172703.GE24590@mrbill.net>

I've started a Tadpole/RDI docs archive.

http://www.sunhelp.org/tadpole/

If you've got online docs that I don't have there, please feel free to send
them along.

Once I get my colo box upgraded, I'll be able to host software as well.

I'm also sorta looking for a couple of SPARCBooks or UltraBooks to use as
guest SSH terminals, serial consoles, and so forth.

Bill

-- 
Bill Bradford 
Houston, Texas

From haroldkarl at gmail.com  Thu Jan 28 11:34:48 2010
From: haroldkarl at gmail.com (Harold Berninghausen)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:34:48 -0800
Subject: [rescue] E250, U80, and RAM
Message-ID: <8b51a86f1001280934s6c050ca6n3deb96b04d370df5@mail.gmail.com>

the only ram that will transfer from an e250 to a U80 would be 64meg
strips... the U80 won't/can't use 128meg strips... it is as easy as that...
the U80 only takes 256meg memory (I don't count 64meg as memory).

the E250 was a nice little box... keeps the room warn, but not like its big
brother the E450!

good luck!
haroldkarl

From earl at baugh.org  Thu Jan 28 12:04:29 2010
From: earl at baugh.org (Earl Baugh)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:04:29 -0500
Subject: [rescue] E250, U80, and RAM
Message-ID: <cd6a38031001281004j180156d4x2d29b4b9621ccf30@mail.gmail.com>

 Joshua Boyd wrote :

>
> I see that some memory kits are compatible across a E250 and a U80.  I
> also see that some kits don't seem to list both.  Is there anything is
> really not compatible with either machine (meaning they just chose not
> to qualify it), or are all sticks interchangable?
>
> In particular I want to move memory from a E250 to upgrade a U80 before
> trying to find a new home for the E250.
>

I've found them to be interchangeable for all the ones I've tried.  BTW,
I've got
a small metric butt load of memory for 220Rs and 420Rs if anybody is
interested...
(didn't check to see if it's compatible with the E250, but I suspect it
is...)

Earl

From fitzgerrell at gmail.com  Fri Jan 29 20:44:38 2010
From: fitzgerrell at gmail.com (Kevin Fitzgerrell)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 11:44:38 +0900
Subject: [rescue] Need Solaris 2.5.1 binary for sformat
Message-ID: <d2c02e0f1001291844m55277371h6f0b4c7dfb2b80ba@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Can anyone point me to a binary for sformat?  I'm using Solaris 2.5.1.

Cheers,

Kevin

From crfriend at rcn.com  Sat Jan 30 06:57:34 2010
From: crfriend at rcn.com (Carl R. Friend)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:57:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [rescue] Need Solaris 2.5.1 binary for sformat
In-Reply-To: <d2c02e0f1001291844m55277371h6f0b4c7dfb2b80ba@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d2c02e0f1001291844m55277371h6f0b4c7dfb2b80ba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1001300756390.1008@zephyr.cacm.org>

    On Sat, 30 Jan 2010, Kevin Fitzgerrell wrote:

> Can anyone point me to a binary for sformat?  I'm using Solaris 2.5.1.

    Not to a binary, but if you can find source, I have a running
Solaris 2.5.1 system at home with a compiler on it...

    Cheers!

+------------------------------------------------+---------------------+
| Carl Richard Friend (UNIX Sysadmin)            | West Boylston       |
| Minicomputer Collector / Enthusiast            | Massachusetts, USA  |
| mailto:crfriend at rcn.com                        +---------------------+
| http://users.rcn.com/crfriend/museum           | ICBM: 42:22N 71:47W |
+------------------------------------------------+---------------------+

From adh at an.bradford.ma.us  Sat Jan 30 09:38:32 2010
From: adh at an.bradford.ma.us (Sandwich Maker)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:38:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [rescue] Need Solaris 2.5.1 binary for sformat
Message-ID: <201001301538.o0UFcWf08787@an.bradford.ma.us>

" From: "Carl R. Friend" <crfriend at rcn.com>
" 
"     On Sat, 30 Jan 2010, Kevin Fitzgerrell wrote:
" 
" > Can anyone point me to a binary for sformat?  I'm using Solaris 2.5.1.
" 
"     Not to a binary, but if you can find source, I have a running
" Solaris 2.5.1 system at home with a compiler on it...

{ftp,http}://ftp.at.vim.org/utils/schilling/sformat/sformat-3.5.tar.gz
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh at an.bradford.ma.us                       and think what none thought

From alaric at metrocast.net  Sat Jan 30 12:24:17 2010
From: alaric at metrocast.net (Phil Stracchino)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:24:17 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Solaris 10 x86 recovery?
Message-ID: <4B647951.5090708@metrocast.net>

My Solaris 10 x86 box went down hard last night, sometime between 0130
(when the last mail message got transferred) and 0214 (when babylon5's
eix-sync failed because it couldn't resolve any hostnames).  It doesn't
APPEAR that any hardware has failed, but the boot filesystem (which is a
ZFS mirror) is not mountable.  I can get to a single-user shell from the
install CDs, but zfs/zpool list says no zfs datasets/pools available.
The disks all seem to be present.  Am I missing something?  Is there a
way I can recover my ZFS pool data from the single-user shell?  Should I
be able to fsck and mount a partition on the boot disks just as though
it was not mirrored?

I'm hoping I can get the system booted if I can just figure out how to
fsck the boot partitions, but I've never had to do this on ZFS before
and I don't want to blow away my installed OS by fumbling around in the
dark and doing something wrong.


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         Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater
                 It's not the years, it's the mileage.

From alaric at metrocast.net  Sat Jan 30 13:18:10 2010
From: alaric at metrocast.net (Phil Stracchino)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:18:10 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Solaris CD ISOs?
Message-ID: <4B6485F2.3040009@metrocast.net>

Further to the previous question:
The ZFS pools on babylon4 are a newer ZFS version than the Solaris x86
CDs I have (which are 10/2008).  The only release I see available for
download from Sun^H^H^HOracle is 10/2009, and I see only DVD images.
babylon4 does not have a DVD drive.  Does anyone happen to know what the
most recent amd64 Solaris 10 CD ISOs are?  Worst case, I can take the
DVD drive out of this machine, but I'd sooner not if I can avoid it.

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  Phil Stracchino, CDK#2     DoD#299792458     ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355
  alaric at caerllewys.net   alaric at metrocast.net   phil at co.ordinate.org
         Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater
                 It's not the years, it's the mileage.

From rharr at me.com  Sat Jan 30 21:18:15 2010
From: rharr at me.com (Robert Harrington)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 22:18:15 -0500
Subject: [rescue] Tadpole/RDI Docs Archive
In-Reply-To: <20100128172703.GE24590@mrbill.net>
References: <20100128172703.GE24590@mrbill.net>
Message-ID: <FDA90D51-AC9E-4D1E-B0A5-6D0A8C05C2EB@me.com>

On Jan 28, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Bill Bradford wrote:

> I've started a Tadpole/RDI docs archive.
>
> http://www.sunhelp.org/tadpole/
>
> If you've got online docs that I don't have there, please feel free  
> to send
> them along.
>
I have been able to get manuals from General Dynamics at:

http://www.tadpolerdi.com/product_support/downloads.asp

This seems to be a link to anonymous ftp via ftp.tadpole.com

Bob

From ethan at 757tech.net  Sun Jan 31 23:56:29 2010
From: ethan at 757tech.net (Ethan O'Toole)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 00:56:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [rescue] Eeek! Looking for ISO of Trusted Solaris 2.5.1
In-Reply-To: <FDA90D51-AC9E-4D1E-B0A5-6D0A8C05C2EB@me.com>
References: <20100128172703.GE24590@mrbill.net>
	<FDA90D51-AC9E-4D1E-B0A5-6D0A8C05C2EB@me.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1002010054360.8599@mh5.757tech.net>

I'm setting up my Sun Voyager to run Trusted Solaris 2.5.1. I was 
installing from the media and was getting errors. Pulled out the CD to 
check for smudges, and there is a gash that cuts through the surface into 
the media. I can see my finger through it. And I don't recall ever 
actually taking the CD out of the case. And I'm trying to get this setup 
before Shmoocon this weekend.

Does anyone have an ISO of it? If so please contact me off list.