[rescue] VAX on a cell phone

Jonathan Groll lists at groll.co.za
Tue Aug 17 03:54:53 CDT 2010

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:27:55PM -0400, Patrick Finnegan wrote:
>On Wednesday, August 11, 2010, der Mouse wrote:
>> >> [simh on Android]
>> > 
>> > No network support for now.  libpcap support isn't trivial (though
>> > it probably is possible) on Android.
>> What's nontrivial about it?  When I was working on Android, tcpdump
>> was just a matter of persuading the Android build machinery to build
>> it, upon which it Just Worked.  This may well have been a difference
>> between the level you're working at and the level I was working at -
>> that is, the question I opened my response with may well have a real
>> answer - but it does indicate that it surely is possible.
>I didn't say it wasn't possible.  I said it wasn't trivial, because it 
>wasn't precompiled.  Also, as I understand it, promiscuous mode on 
>wireless adapters doesn't work, because of how 802.11 networking works 
>(and I assume that most people don't have a wired ethernet jack on their 
>Android device).  Devices that can do host-mode USB or bluetooth with a 
>non-wireless ethernet adapter could probably get around that problem.

Sorry to chime in only now but why not just run Debian proper on the
device (Debian already supports ARM EABI)? [1,2] 

It should be possible to therefore run simh on Debian on Android, and
networking would work.


[1] http://bayleshanks.com/wiki.pl?tips-computer-android-g1
[2] As
"NOTE: Contrary to some opinion, this process DOES NOT REPLACE your
android os, your device still functions as it did before, except now
you can from the command line 'boot' a debian shell - which opens up a
whole new world of software to you. You can exit out of it and are
returned to your android os. You even still receive calls etc whilst
in the debian shell!"

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