[rescue] NeWS

Charles Shannon Hendrix shannon at widomaker.com
Sat Jan 21 09:49:03 CST 2006

Fri, 20 Jan 2006 @ 19:55 -0700, Richard said:

> In article <43D1A029.101 at widomaker.com>,
>     Charles Shannon Hendrix <shannon at widomaker.com>  writes:
> > Richard wrote:
> > 
> > > To my knowledge once Motif was out, most people didn't bother making
> > > toolkits 
> > 
> > Actually, Motif probably has more third party toolkits, including a lot 
> > for support of specialized industries, than any other GUI system in the 
> > world.
> ...which is actually proving my point.  People built stuff on *top* of
> Motif to complement what they see as gaps in its widget set, not stuff
> to compete with or replace it.

I thought you meant no one was writing them for Motif.

I'd still say you are wrong though, because toolkits continued to
explode in number after Motif. That's always been a frustraction
with UNIX GUI systems: so many that there never was a standard one

As far as plugging holes goes:

Only a small number of third party widgets did that. The vast majority
were extentions to Motif, not plugging holes.

They were mainly extensions which used Motif guidelines, and covered new

Plugging a hole would have been a third party widget that replaced a
base Motif element that was considered unsuitable.

For example, there was a third party widget to replace base Motif's
leaky spreadsheet type widget with one that was more efficient and had
better features.

I'm sure there were others.

> ...or are you saying that these third party toolkits are Motif
> competitors?

No, and toolkit is probably the wrong word, but a lot of third parties
called their widget sets toolkits.

And yes, there were plenty of competitive toolkits, some created before
Motif which lived on, and quite a few created afterward.

KDE and Gnome are only the latest examples of this.

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