[rescue] Backups

Mike Hebel nimitz at nimitzbrood.com
Wed Jun 15 11:29:44 CDT 2005

Someone generated the quantum flux that came across as... Geoffrey S.
Mendelson> On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 11:05:13AM -0500, Mike Hebel wrote:
>> I'm well aware of this however for proper streaming to the DVD-R/CD-R
>> to occur there has to be a number of things besides the burner
>> configured correctly.
> I've burned hundreds of DVDs on her computer and have had only one or
> two coasters that were not my fault. If you are that concerned with
> readability, NERO has a verify option, GHOST has a check the checksum.
> When I burn a DVD with NERO, I check the verify option and go away for
> an hour. When I come back I have a 4.5 gig DVD ready to file away.

*shrug*  Fair enough.  So it works for you.  YMMV as always...

>> Your experiences may be different but I personally do not consider
>> DVD-R/CD-R to be a good backup solution.  They're slower than a
>> properly configured tape drive and on top of that the media only lasts
>> ten years or so per current technology research.  I know people that
>> have DLTs and DEC style tape that is still good after more than a
>> decade - and will probably still be good a decade later.
> Some peole just can't afford anything else, if you are so rich, care to
> buy me a drive and a dozen tapes. I'll even trade you two dead DDS-3
> drives and about 30 unused tapes. :-)

Point taken.  But consider this...

I paid $40 for my DLT 4000 drive and another $5 per tape.
The SCSI controller is almost free and came with donated hardware.  Heck
if you backup off of a Non-Windows box it probably already has SCSI
installed.20/40Gig per tape versus 4.5G per DVD.

I'm not trying to be flippant here or trollish - I'm just trying to point
out that even people with little money have good options available to
them.  I saw DLT3000 drives for $30 each on E-Bay.  Worst comes to worse
you have somebody buy it and ship it to you in Israel since I know that's
an issue.  Even if you add shipping it's still worth it versus the cost of
what you're data and time is worth.

"Without balance and consistent growth the only option is to degrade. 
There is no other solution." - Anonymous

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