[rescue] restorations and keyboards
pat at computer-refuge.org
Wed Feb 4 00:19:09 CST 2004
On Tuesday 03 February 2004 23:19, Jeff Workman wrote:
> (Hello everybody, it's been a long, long time...)
> I take a lot of pride myself in running all 3 of the public
> pimpworks.org machines on old alphas, two of which are old
> 3000/300LXs. These machines are from what? 1989 or so? I'm pretty
No! In 1989, DEC was possibly selling MIPS machines (DECstations), the
Alpha wasn't released until the mid-early 90s, and the 3000/300LX came
out in 1994 from what Google tells me. "A person I know" worked on the
development/architecture verification of the Alpha.
> sure they predate the WWW, at the very least.
Possibly wide-spread WWW use, but not the development of HTML (1992?).
The only issue I have with using machines this old is it's painful to
connect to them via SSH. Those 3000/300LX's aren't too bad, but
something like a 70MHz Sparcstation 5 just takes FOREVER to create a
session key. I don't even want to think what a MicroVAX 3400 would be
And yes, I *have to* (save one exception) be able to use SSH. There's
no way in hell I'm going to have my password flying around in cleartext
each time I want to ftp/telnet to a machine on campus from home. I
might be able to mostly-trust Purdue's data network to be
fairly-secure, but the same doesn't apply on the route from my Cable
ISP to campus. The one exception I make is the machines I have running
VMS, since I have yet to find a decent free SSH client/server (OpenSSH
port) for VMS. Of course, then I'm sshing to a machine on the same
switch and then telnet/ftping over from a different machine on the same
Ethernet switch, so it's basically still pretty secure.
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