[rescue] Compaq Proliant 8000
Charles Shannon Hendrix
shannon at widomaker.com
Fri Apr 30 13:27:15 CDT 2004
Fri, 30 Apr 2004 @ 13:38 -0400, Dave McGuire said:
> >Have you run Gnome on both? If you found the Sun just as fast,
> >what kind of graphics board do you have?
> I run Gnome on both. The Sun has an Elite3D-M3, which I'm trying to
> replace with a Creator3D for faster 2D performance (I don't do any 3D
> stuff) and higher resolution.
I'd like to see a decent review of all the Sun cards on 2D and 3D
> >Every U60 I sat down at had relatively low end graphics and it was too
> >slow. OpenGL was abysmal.
> Indeed. I guess it's a good thing they're not game machines or
> animation workstations. OpenGL is a niche, not a hard-and-fast
> requirement for any desktop machine.
I found it slow at 2D too. Could have been just a really low-end board.
> If you want good OpenGL performance, you need to look into SGI. Suns
> aren't built for it,
Thing thing is, new versions of X are going to be using OpenGL for 2D
acceleration. Oh well.
> and PCs are toys for "kiddiez".
Reverend Kool? Is that you?
> >I know how fast a 300MHz Sun is, I've used them a lot. They are
> >sometimes faster clock for click (MIPS is better at this), but that
> >can't make up for everything.
> They are nearly always faster clock for clock. However, I wasn't
> aware that you were talking exclusively about OpenGL graphics
I'm not, my nVidia has very good 2D performance too.
> I'm sorry if that was my mistake. Sun workstations definitely aren't
> very strong there...as that's not what they're designed to do.
> >> Clueless.
> >No, you just aren't listening.
> I'm listening. Over the past two days, I've heard you say:
> - PCs are faster than workstations
No, I didn't.
> - PCs are cheaper than workstations
I said for a given amount of power for desktop use they are cheaper.
> - PCs are easier to get than workstations
Sure I can easily buy a few workstations easily, but I am not just
talking about you or I.
Suppose I need 500 of them?
Also, consider the point of view of the average joe. Have you actually
seen joe-luser try to use a new workstation?
I've love to change that, but right now they have a hard time with it.
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