[rescue] spam WPOISON

Dave McGuire mcguire at neurotica.com
Tue Sep 9 12:22:47 CDT 2003

On Tuesday, September 9, 2003, at 01:04 PM, Joshua D. Boyd wrote:
>>> Look, imagine your $doomedProject.  There is no reason that the tools
>>> they are using to build the Java code couldn't be generating C++ 
>>> code.
>>> And if they were generating C++ code, what do you think the chances 
>>> are
>>> that it wouldn't grind to a halt almost as quickly, based on what
>>> you've
>>> said about it?
>>   Tools they are using to build...what?  You want their Java compilers
>> to generate C++ code??
> No, no, no.  There are GUI tools out there where you "program" in them,
> and it generates Java code that you never see.  The "developer" never
> sees a single line of code.  Reportedly, use of such tools can
> frequently lead to programs that don't perform basic optimizations
> (like, say, caching the results of a SQL select that takes a minute to
> run for later use) and leak memory like a sieve, and potentially lead 
> to
> web pages that take minutes to load because the Java application server
> is so bogged down with code from the Java GUI frontend.

   People who "write software" in this way should be shot on sight.  No 
wonder this crap is so slow.

> Now, imagine a system like this where instead of generated Java, it is
> generated C++.  When the code generated is this bad, it makes no real
> difference to the speed whether the program is written in C++ or Java,
> or really, even C.

   I see your point.

   These "tools" simply should not exist.


Dave McGuire                 "You don't have Vaseline in Canada?"
St. Petersburg, FL                     -Bill Bradford

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