[rescue] Interesting bit on Multics

vance at neurotica.com vance at neurotica.com
Tue Oct 21 12:39:29 CDT 2003

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Mike Meredith wrote:

> > Neither of those two points killed VM, luckily.
> Well, whilst IBM management tried repeatedly to kill off VM, the IBM
> developers (including those for 'competing' operating systems) were
> quietly saying "fuck that" and carried on using it.

I have a whole bunch of friends who have firsthand experience with IBM
management trying to kill off VM.  I live in Poughkeepsie, so I know a lot
of longtime IBM mainframe OS people.

> I don't think my dad had anything to do with VM except that from
> sometime in the 1970's onwards he was never without access to a "VMed"
> mainframe ... access to his own virtual machine was kind of useful to an
> MVS developer.

Indeed.  It's useful for any kind of IBM mainframe development.  You get
your own machine.  You can do whatever you want to it.

> (I'm excluding the 6 months he was with the OS/2 PM group, learning C
> and hating it)

Does he hate OS/2?  Or just PM?

Peace...  Sridhar

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