An ISP of their own (was RE: [rescue] Being jobless)
kevin at mpcf.com
Wed Jul 30 22:29:08 CDT 2003
"I have no problems with people expressing what they have seen or been involved in, but don't decide that is the only option."
This is exactly what he did. He expressed what he had seen (or more specifically what he had not seen) and relayed some info he got from a telco worker and that's it. He never said anything along the lines of "there is no such thing as a non-HDSL T1."
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 01:35:27 -0500
Phil Schilling <phils at gcstech.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:56:30 -0400
> Steve Sandau <ssandau at bath.tmac.com> wrote:
> (The original was not Steve's email)
> > > I have never seen a t-1 delivered via anything but a hdsl line. I once
> > > asked a guy who worked for the telephone company about it, he said that he
> > > had not installed a real t-1 since 1992.
> > The old T1 in the last building just arrived as 4 copper wires from the
> > demark just like the phone lines. Dunno what "format" that was, but
> > there was no internal electronics at all..
> Generalizations suck.. Because you have never seen does not make gospel. I have been in on many a T1 and T3 installation that was not hdsl. My 1/2 T is a copper pair from the demarc approx. 150' down the alley from my office. That is hooked into the fiber from the demarc to the backbone near Des Moines. Was in on a upgrade for an Eaton corporation from 2 - T1's to 2 - T3's that never involved any hdsl about 3 months ago. I have no problems with people expressing what they have seen or been involved in, but don't decide that is the only option.
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