An ISP of their own (was RE: [rescue] Being jobless)

Phil Schilling phils at
Sun Jul 27 01:35:27 CDT 2003

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:56:30 -0400
Steve Sandau <ssandau at> wrote:
(The original was not Steve's email)

> > I have never seen a t-1 delivered via anything but a hdsl line.  I once
> > asked a guy who worked for the telephone company about it, he said that he
> > had not installed a real t-1 since 1992.  
> The old T1 in the last building just arrived as 4 copper wires from the 
> demark just like the phone lines. Dunno what "format" that was, but 
> there was no internal electronics at all..
Generalizations suck.. Because you have never seen does not make gospel.  I have been in on many a T1 and T3 installation that was not hdsl.  My 1/2 T is a copper pair from the demarc approx. 150' down the alley from my office.  That is hooked into the fiber from the demarc to the backbone near Des Moines.  Was in on a upgrade for an Eaton corporation from 2 - T1's to 2 - T3's that never involved any hdsl about 3 months ago.  I have no problems with people expressing what they have seen or been involved in, but don't decide that is the only option.


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