An ISP of their own (was RE: [rescue] Being jobless)

Patrick Giagnocavo +1.717.201.3366 patrick at
Wed Jul 30 10:59:06 CDT 2003

On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 11:31:36AM -0400, Dave McGuire wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 11:27 AM, Patrick Giagnocavo 
> +1.717.201.3366 wrote:
> >>> 1. wouldn't 1.5M sdsl be cheaper?  they're going for more like $400
> >>>    around here.  you do have to be within 9500' of a co.
> >>
> >>    Many "real" T1s are delivered that way anyway.  I had one (an"real,
> >> official" T1) at my old house back in 1997 or so that was delivered
> >> that way.
> >
> > Course, that it is just DSL doesn't stop Verizon from billing the
> > circuit at $175/month local loop.
> >
> > Phone tariffs == scam.
>    Anything dealing with suits and big companies == scam.

As I dug into tarriffs further, I found out that the stated amount is
actually discounted to large buyers of such loops.

Thus the salesman says "oh, we have to charge you this set rate" when
in fact they are getting a substantial discount off list price.  

It almost seems like some salemen see their job as being paid to lie,
or at least to be there to provide plausible deniability.

Funny thing is, from my days in sales, once the customer discovers you
are telling them the truth, your job gets a lot easier.


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