[rescue] ECC [was: Re: WOT: Ebay changes to IBM from Sun E10Kservers?]

Curtis H. Wilbar Jr. rescue at hawkmountain.net
Thu Jul 10 10:19:04 CDT 2003

Not at all...  I persally didn't like it when the Pentium support
chips from Intel were released with no parity memory support.

I like parity memory at a minimum... that way at least I KNOW a memory
error has occured....  (as in a PC there are more reasons for crashes
and hangs than reasons for it to stay up and running :-) ).... ECC
even better.

I use ECC whenever I can in a box.... I also use RAID whenever I can...
I like uptime, not downtime.... and if there has to be downtime, I 
like deciding when it is... not the random forces of the computer/electronics
world :-)

-- Curt

>Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:13:24 -0400
>Subject: Re: [rescue] ECC [was: Re: WOT: Ebay changes to IBM from Sun  
>From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
>To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
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>On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 04:35 AM, Frank Van Damme wrote:
>>> Well yes. The difference is that you have a clue.
>>> Most others don't
>> The difference is most people don't need ecc ram. A ram chip breaks 
>> usually
>> only after years and years of intensive use, if it does at all. 
>> Therefor it's
>> cheaper for people to run the risk to break the ram after 5 years (by 
>> that
>> time the increased bloat in Windows will hae forced them to upgrade 
>> their
>> hardware so that's not problem either </sarcasm>).
>> If people had a clue, they'd check their ram for faulty bits every now 
>> and
>> then. Few people do this - there must be millions of people who have 
>> windows
>> reonstalled by their (equally clueless) computer dealer because of
>> instability which can be caused by bad ram.
>   I think the real difference is that most PC users tolerate hardware 
>   Properly-implemented ECC is the right thing to do.  Yes, it's more 
>expensive, but it's the right thing to do.  A memory error that would 
>otherwise bring a system to its knees will simply cause an entry into 
>an error log with ECC...turning unexpected downtime into scheduled 
>   With this "I like my stuff to work all the time" attitude, am I just 
>being too intolerant?
>         -Dave
>Dave McGuire             "I've grown hair again, just
>St. Petersburg, FL           for the occasion."       -Doc Shipley
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Curtis Wilbar
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