[rescue] Do you remember when? Security software.....
ajwdsp at cloud9.net
Tue Aug 12 23:07:32 CDT 2003
On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 11:30 PM, Charles Shannon Hendrix
> Several people came in wearing suits with certs worn like badges of
> honor. I told two of them one day, "Come with me." They followed me
> like little sheep as I led them back to the front door of our office
> said goodbye. I played innocent like I thought I was supposed to.
> It felt... so evil... so good...
You really have to be careful with that too... I think somewhere on
some interviews I've done things like that. I always wear a suit to an
interview... well not really a suit but nice pants a tie and black
shoes... and yes I've worn my MS cert pin (to jobs that want MS certs),
and removed the Linux penguin occasionally (when I thought it'd scare
the MS people... yes I was planning to diabolically disassemble the MS
infrastructure once I had the job ;-) muahahaha). It's all about
buttering up the HR people and such to get past them... we've tried
many things. I've probably been shown the door for no good reason many
times.... trying either the above or the diametric opposite...
I have never been to an interview poorly dressed, but I have done silly
things like bring pictures of my datacenter stuff... I start with the
usual suit+pins or what have you for the HR person... when I move on to
the technical person I usually relax... shoot the breeze ... talk about
my data center, etc... sometimes with very good results... the only
thing that can make this lousy is if a business guy also has to talk to
me... especially an off-putting creepy ROI suit. Sometimes I lose it
internally when this happens.
> But damnnation, my boss ran out and got them. You just can't save some
> people from themselves.
They could have been good but young... you never know if they just
don't know what is or isn't respected in the field... we all learn
these things over time.
> After *he* kicked them out the door, he came to me and said, "How did
> you know?"
I would look more for a balance of reasonable skills on the resume
(that don't look like lying... )... nicely dressed (serious about the
job... you can break the dress code to them later...i.e. we dress
casually around here... and of course I tend to ask the interviewer
ahead of time to better prepare for what I should be wearing), not a
show off... but eager to share knowledge, and able to answer questions
about what is on their resume beyond what they have written and in a
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