[rescue] Why is everyone so OSX happy?

Kevin kevin at mpcf.com
Fri Apr 11 02:42:25 CDT 2003

Yes i have used one, i've logged many hours on a dual 1.25
since January and i did a decent amount of work with OSX beta
back in the summer of 2000, although, of course i don't blame
them for issues i had during the beta stages.

I have had no problems with USB either other than the
prohibited symbol at boot time.  But that's enough.

As for the SCSI issue, i can tell most people don't use SCSI
otherwise they would be bitching droves at how much of a PITA
it is to run a terminated cable to the proper location.  The
IDE controller crushed (and destroyed) one of the scsi
connectors on the cable.  Had to buy a slim line terminator
just to make it fit.  But to be fair that has nothing at all
to do with OSX, just hardware design.

And speaking of hardware the gigabyte portion of the NIC is
mostly software based, at least according to Apple Support. 
And they do not support Jumbo frames on a normal box, even if
you buy a NIC that does.  They only do Jumbo Frames on an
Xserve, once again this is according to Apple Support.

Paint on your Ti?  I thought they were just plain titanium? I
didn't know they were painted.


On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:39:50 -0400
Chris Hedemark <chris at yonderway.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, April 10, 2003, at 10:58 PM, Kevin wrote:
> > I don't mean to offend anyone here (with the possible
> > exception of Steve Jobs) but i am curious as to why so
> > many people here seem to love OSX, especially people who
> > understand and are familiar with other unices?  In my
> > eyes, OSX is an unpolished, tacky, eye candy bloated mess.
> Have you tried it?
> I mean beyond the 5 minute messing around at the Apple
> store?
> > 3. OSX has several issues with USB devices on boot,
> > especially if you are booting from SCSI devices and not
> > IDE.  That circle with a slash through it, "prohibited"
> > sign gets annoying when it comes up once out of every four
> > or five reboots (yes the SCSI chain is properly
> > terminated.)
> Most people won't run into this because most OS X boxes
> don't run SCSI (and most of those that do don't boot off of
> SCSI).
> In general, I've had no problems with USB devices (tested
> printer, digital camera, camcorder, keyboard, mouse, jog
> wheel) or Firewire (including hard disks, DVD-R/RW,
> camcorder).
> > 4. There are several places where the code is just simply
> > not finished.  The file manager for instance.
> I've been using OS X for almost a year now.  No real
> complaints on that front (then again I use the command line
> interface for most of my file operations).
> > So please someone, let me know what is so @%$&*@#! great
> > about it?  Then perhaps i will see the light too....
> This is something you will hear a lot:  It Just Works.

> More importantly, for me, it is the most graceful OS I know
> of at handling portable operation with lots of sleep/wake
> cycles, often waking up on a different network than it went
> to sleep in, or having new devices attached, etc.  I plug
> shit in and it works.
> The experience goes beyond the software.  The hardware gets
> me giddy, too.  I've got this very conveniently sized
> portable UNIX computer with gigabit ethernet, 802.11b,
> firewire, USB, S-Video out, audio in/out, 56K modem, PC Card
> slot, DVD/CD-RW, DVI port (with SVGA dongle), nice wide
> screen, etc.  I get decent battery life.  I can put the
> thing in my lap without getting burned.  It handles my music
> collection competently.  It handles my video editing
> brilliantly.  I have a number of encrypted filesystems on
> the hard disk for each of my clients so if my machine gets
> jacked my most sensitive data is still safe.  I have full
> access to my UNIX hosts both by command line and GUI.  I can
> map drives easily on both UNIX and Windows servers.
> Linux or FreeBSD on a PC laptop is capable of doing many of
> these things with a lot of slapped on hardware upgrades and
> a lot of time spent configuring software.  OS X works pretty
> well out of the box, and with a minimum of customizing is a
> damned good tool for a UNIX sysadmin to carry around.  This
> has been more useful to me than any other notebook I've had
> running any other OS.
> My gripes?  Yes, I have some.
> * - Mail.app can't competently deal with file attachments
> (outbound).* - The one button mouse is annoying, though less
> so as you get used to it.  I do pack a real USB mouse in my
> bag for times that I really need to have those extra
> buttons.  Using the Control key with the mouse button to
> simulate a right-click has become almost subconscious now.*
> - 802.11b reception sucks donkey rectum.  The iBooks are
> supposed to be better in this respect.
> * - The paint does not hold up well to wear & tear. My
> TiBook looks like it has been to Baghdad.
> * - Combo drive is busted & unusable.  I can't go without my
> notebook for the time it would take to send it off for
> repair.  Got a firewire attached drive which works a lot
> better.* - One of my keys popped off the keyboard and could
> not be put back on (broken plastic).  I took it to the apple
> store and they fixed it for free while I waited.
> You'll notice I've been blurring the line between hardware &
> software a lot.  One tends to do that after working with
> this kit for
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