[rescue] Prime Time

Joshua D. Boyd rescue at sunhelp.org
Wed Jun 13 15:08:24 CDT 2001

Now, is that F50 a library machine, or one of your personal machines?  I
ask because my schools library uses and IBM AIX machine, which to my
understanding, is the only AIX machine on campus.  All other unix machines
on campus are HP-UX (current standard for IT), Solaris (old standard for
IT, plus old standard for CS, plus current standard for meteorology),
linux (tons of students, plus new CS lab), and Irix (few odd machines in
CS and meteorology).

We also have an old IBM mainframe, but it is only turned on something like
2 or 3 times a year, to run some process (I forget what, but I think it is
something finacial) that hasn't been replaced yet on the Oracle/HP-UX

Joshua Boyd

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Brian Harrington wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Dave McGuire wrote:
> > On June 13, Joshua D. Boyd wrote:
> > > What exactly is this "prime time" anyway?  Linux (and *bsd) are obviously
> > > being used sucessfully in very high profile bet the company systems, so
> > > what more is needed for "prime time"?
> >
> >   "Prime time" is simply defined: my former coworkers and I didn't give
> > it a second thought when we were deploying hundreds of console-less
> > zero-babysitting Sparc5 machines running NetBSD onto other peoples'
> > networks as satellite downlink controllers.  The hardware and the
> > software Just Works...no bullshit.  That's how *I* define "ready for
> > prime time".
> Well, since Joshua threw in the *BSD, I'll give my different definition of
> "prime time".  What do you use on your "one big box"?  Given a
> medium-sized machine (a E5500 or an IBM S70, let's say) and a copy of
> Oracle or DB2, what do you build your backend with?  The free unixes are
> great in the lots of small boxes department, but when it comes to managing
> the big database server, the features and scalability just aren't there.
> You have to remember that even Solaris is a relative newcomer to this
> market, and MVS and VMS and even OS/400 (heaven help us) are all stronger
> players than NT (although M$ is certainly trying).  Even Linux/390 is all
> about displacing several hundred PCs, not switching over the gazillion
> transaction per secend MVS box.
> I actually went through this on a smaller scale at work a while back, when
> after having an AIX Moment (tm) on my F50, I started to download LinuxPPC.
> But then I thought about giving up JFS and the cool IBM LVM, along with
> half a dozen other things I just take for granted every day, and AIX
> stayed on the box.  (It's not really so bad, as long as I stop trying to
> pretend it's unix. :-)
>                     -- Brian
> --
> Brian Harrington
> Milton S. Eisenhower Library
> The Johns Hopkins University
> brian at sigh.mse.jhu.edu
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