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	<title>Comments on: Sun releases Ultra 20 Opteron workstation</title>
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		<title>By: Mel Beckman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel Beckman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Ultra 20 just arrived!  Alas, everyone at Sun seems to be clueless about this machine. It arrived with all software pre-installed, but not one shred of documentation beyond a useless &quot;setup&quot; guide that did not remotely match the actual boot process, which asked a slew of questions and apparently requires that reverse-DNS be configured for the IP address you assign the thing.

There is no documentation CD, no Solaris installation media, and lots of fluff stuff like a demo &quot;solutions&quot; CD (with, amazingly, not ONE Solaris demo on it!) The registration card says only &quot;Be the first to know! Go to http://www.sun.com/registration/hardware.&quot; This link goes nowhere.

I called tech support, but I don&#039;t have a support contract number, and after two days nobody can find out where my support information is. They can&#039;t find the machine s/n in their systems. One Sun person solemnly assured me that I can&#039;t possilby have an Ultra 20 because the first ones won&#039;t ship until August 26th, yet my machine plainly says &quot;Ultra 20&quot; right on the front of it.

It&#039;s been a while since I used Solaris, and a lot has changed. The default Java desktop replaces CDE (I&#039;m sure I can get CDE going if I try). This desktop is very clean looking, but rather sluggish. Dragging a window results in many ghosted copies of the window dragging behind -- very ugly, and very tedious after just a few minutes.

Oddly, the default $PATH is so primitive that even ping doesn&#039;t work. I doctored it up, but still haven&#039;t been able to get any of the clearly-existing Jave Studio packages to run. There are no obvious launch icons for these, and no printed docs, and no system-resident or online docs that anyone can point me to. There are install CDs for the various Studio things, but they appear to have no manuals on them -- just some VERY complex installation instructions for installing from scratch. Sheesh! This can&#039;t really be this hard!

I installed a third-party package installer, called pkg-get, that let me install some useful open source tools to make the machine usable -- ethereal, debuggers, etc. 

The machine looks absolutely stunning sitting there in the corner, giant SUN logo in 500-point type blazing away on the side. Sun gets an A+ for pretty box design. Alas, they get a D- for out-of-the-box experience. I&#039;m not expecting to have my hand held every step of the way, but I expect SOME sort of basic guidance from Sun. A Getting Started guide. SOMETHING!

Ah, there&#039;s Sun calling me back again now... False alarm, just a Sun techie telling me that his group can&#039;t help me because they don&#039;t support the Ultra 20 and he doesn&#039;t know who does.

 -mel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Ultra 20 just arrived!  Alas, everyone at Sun seems to be clueless about this machine. It arrived with all software pre-installed, but not one shred of documentation beyond a useless &#8220;setup&#8221; guide that did not remotely match the actual boot process, which asked a slew of questions and apparently requires that reverse-DNS be configured for the IP address you assign the thing.</p>
<p>There is no documentation CD, no Solaris installation media, and lots of fluff stuff like a demo &#8220;solutions&#8221; CD (with, amazingly, not ONE Solaris demo on it!) The registration card says only &#8220;Be the first to know! Go to <a href="http://www.sun.com/registration/hardware." rel="nofollow">http://www.sun.com/registration/hardware.</a>&#8221; This link goes nowhere.</p>
<p>I called tech support, but I don&#8217;t have a support contract number, and after two days nobody can find out where my support information is. They can&#8217;t find the machine s/n in their systems. One Sun person solemnly assured me that I can&#8217;t possilby have an Ultra 20 because the first ones won&#8217;t ship until August 26th, yet my machine plainly says &#8220;Ultra 20&#8243; right on the front of it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been a while since I used Solaris, and a lot has changed. The default Java desktop replaces CDE (I&#8217;m sure I can get CDE going if I try). This desktop is very clean looking, but rather sluggish. Dragging a window results in many ghosted copies of the window dragging behind &#8212; very ugly, and very tedious after just a few minutes.</p>
<p>Oddly, the default $PATH is so primitive that even ping doesn&#8217;t work. I doctored it up, but still haven&#8217;t been able to get any of the clearly-existing Jave Studio packages to run. There are no obvious launch icons for these, and no printed docs, and no system-resident or online docs that anyone can point me to. There are install CDs for the various Studio things, but they appear to have no manuals on them &#8212; just some VERY complex installation instructions for installing from scratch. Sheesh! This can&#8217;t really be this hard!</p>
<p>I installed a third-party package installer, called pkg-get, that let me install some useful open source tools to make the machine usable &#8212; ethereal, debuggers, etc. </p>
<p>The machine looks absolutely stunning sitting there in the corner, giant SUN logo in 500-point type blazing away on the side. Sun gets an A+ for pretty box design. Alas, they get a D- for out-of-the-box experience. I&#8217;m not expecting to have my hand held every step of the way, but I expect SOME sort of basic guidance from Sun. A Getting Started guide. SOMETHING!</p>
<p>Ah, there&#8217;s Sun calling me back again now&#8230; False alarm, just a Sun techie telling me that his group can&#8217;t help me because they don&#8217;t support the Ultra 20 and he doesn&#8217;t know who does.</p>
<p> -mel</p>
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		<title>By: Desktop Computer News</title>
		<link>http://www.sunhelp.org/2005/06/27/sun-releases-ultra-20-opteron-workstation/comment-page-1/#comment-1977</link>
		<dc:creator>Desktop Computer News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Sun releases Ultra 20 Opteron workstation&lt;/strong&gt;

[Source:  sunhelp] quoted: Sun has released the Ultra 20 AMD Opteron-based workstation, with prices from $895 to $2695. They&#8217;re also offering one free with the purchase of a three-year Sun services subscription at $29.95/month.</description>
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<p>[Source:  sunhelp] quoted: Sun has released the Ultra 20 AMD Opteron-based workstation, with prices from $895 to $2695. They&#8217;re also offering one free with the purchase of a three-year Sun services subscription at $29.95/month.</p>
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